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  • #16
    Re: Assisted Dying Off To A Start At Last

    Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    No need to apologise, old fruit. I am not unaware of the concept of humour, you know :-)
    Good, I was worried I had upset you!

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    • #17
      Re: Assisted Dying Off To A Start At Last

      Originally posted by Gofer Blue View Post
      The assisted dying bill will not apply unless your condition is terminal within 6 months. Are you referring to a situation where you might be suffering from a long term medical condition like Parkinsons which renders you incontinent and immobile? If so then this bill will not help you. The latter is the fate I dread the most, having seen different friends/relatives deteriorate slowly in nursing homes and almost begging to be put out of their misery. For me this new bill does not go far enough.
      I have recently witnessed the condition whereby the situation was terminal and the prognosis was less than 6 months.
      However, the sentiment to avoid it happening to me goes above what will be available legally.

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      • #18
        Re: Assisted Dying Off To A Start At Last

        MPs narrowly back the bill.

        It's hard not to feel the historical significance of such a bill and probably says something about how far humanity has come that we can afford to consider such a concept as ending life early. It's a good thing though in my opinion. The protections absolutely need to be there but the idea of a needless, painful, costly death that sours memories between loved ones and benefits no one is something we should be able to avoid if the people in question want to do so. I'm sure there will be grotesque examples that slip through the net but those same examples probably manifest themselves now in terms of carers giving up or wishing and even acting out ill will upon those being cared for anyway.

        One of those things I can't criticise any MP over how they voted either, but as I say I think it's the right decision.

        Kim Leadbeater’s bill has now passed all its stages in the Commons and will go to the Lords, where it is likely to meet more scrutiny

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        • #19
          Re: Assisted Dying Off To A Start At Last

          Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
          For my part, have no intention to decline into a state whereby I am sitting in a nappy filled with my own faeces and expecting someone else to clean me up every day.
          I don't think that the majority of people who end their lives that way 'Expect' another person to clean them up every day, they have no choice. I have plenty of experience of Palliative care, towards people who were terminal, and although i agree with the right to choose at the end stage of life, i was always amazed and humbled by some peoples will to live through huge pain and adversity.

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          • #20
            Re: Assisted Dying Off To A Start At Last

            Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
            I don't think that the majority of people who end their lives that way 'Expect' another person to clean them up every day, they have no choice. I have plenty of experience of Palliative care, towards people who were terminal, and although i agree with the right to choose at the end stage of life, i was always amazed and humbled by some peoples will to live through huge pain and adversity.
            I didn't suggest that a majority of people end their days that way and I fully respect your thoughts based on your experience.

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            • #21
              Re: Assisted Dying Off To A Start At Last

              Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
              I didn't suggest that a majority of people end their days that way and I fully respect your thoughts based on your experience.
              No, you're quite right, you didn't, so apologies for that.

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