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  • #31
    Re: The Green Party

    Originally posted by Coyote View Post
    Immigration is an issue the left is just not going to win on, and it's stubborn and politically suicidal to be so brazenly in favour of it. I would rather focus on economic issues where the left has a much stronger hand to play rather than downplaying the impact of immigration that actively benefits the ultra-capitalist class (although they win either way, whether the immigrants are scapegoated or not).
    Shes using exactly the same divisive language ...600 single men aagghh ....that farage and the far right get stuffed for

    Bollocks to her , clearly a white middle class nimby

    All mouth

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    • #32
      Re: The Green Party

      Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
      Based on this one (prominent) example, it looks that way.
      It looks like shes a complete two faced hypocrite to me

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      • #33
        Re: The Green Party

        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
        Shes using exactly the same divisive language ...600 single men aagghh ....that farage and the far right get stuffed for

        Bollocks to her , clearly a white middle class nimby

        All mouth
        'The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which'

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        • #34
          Re: The Green Party

          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
          Shes using exactly the same divisive language ...600 single men aagghh ....that farage and the far right get stuffed for

          Bollocks to her , clearly a white middle class nimby

          All mouth
          This is something we'll have to disagree on, because I have seen towns impacted by clandestine efforts by local councils with no consultation or transparency from the public, thereby further undermining trust in government. It is not politically feasible to go against the tide of reducing immigration numbers for economic reasons alone; it is ultimately increasing strain and demand on public services, unless done so in a careful, vetted way that prioritises public service workers, like the NHS.

          The social arguments are the weaker case against immigration and what Reform rely upon, but it doesn't mean they're not very popular, and to completely dismiss that is a bad idea in terms of long-term national stability. People are extremely on edge now about it, and to go against that tide is asking for trouble electorally speaking. I think she gave a good answer.

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          • #35
            Re: The Green Party

            Originally posted by Coyote View Post
            This is something we'll have to disagree on, because I have seen towns impacted by clandestine efforts by local councils with no consultation or transparency from the public, thereby further undermining trust in government. It is not politically feasible to go against the tide of reducing immigration numbers for economic reasons alone; it is ultimately increasing strain and demand on public services, unless done so in a careful, vetted way that prioritises public service workers, like the NHS.

            The social arguments are the weaker case against immigration and what Reform rely upon, but it doesn't mean they're not very popular, and to completely dismiss that is a bad idea in terms of long-term national stability. People are extremely on edge now about it, and to go against that tide is asking for trouble electorally speaking. I think she gave a good answer.
            I am afraid looking at it rationally simply doesnt provide that outcome

            She wants her votes but wants her village green too

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            • #36
              Re: The Green Party

              Originally posted by Coyote View Post
              This is something we'll have to disagree on, because I have seen towns impacted by clandestine efforts by local councils with no consultation or transparency from the public, thereby further undermining trust in government. It is not politically feasible to go against the tide of reducing immigration numbers for economic reasons alone; it is ultimately increasing strain and demand on public services, unless done so in a careful, vetted way that prioritises public service workers, like the NHS.

              The social arguments are the weaker case against immigration and what Reform rely upon, but it doesn't mean they're not very popular, and to completely dismiss that is a bad idea in terms of long-term national stability. People are extremely on edge now about it, and to go against that tide is asking for trouble electorally speaking. I think she gave a good answer.
              The first thing to do is separate entirely discussions about asylum seekers from discussions about people were are literally encouraging to come here to fill job market gaps. You might not like the fact that the second one exists, it probably shouldn't need to and is a sign of a country incapable of planning for the future, but it is inherently different.

              It's not a good answer if the only reason she's saying it is because of the prospect of it being near her (her constituency).

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