Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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The bit about the shooter maybe suffering from PTSD after evading a previous attempted attack by a car is an interesting proposition.

However, that begs the question (as the episode has unambiguously been proven by video from behind the car) why did he draw his gun from his holster when the car was emphatically in reverse ? (the reverse lights were on at the moment he withdrew his gun).

Presumably he's bright enough to understand the car is not making an attempt to ram him if it's going in the opposite direction?

Its one rule for freaky religious right wing trigger happy yanks

And one for everyone else

Some far right christian is shot at a rally ........the right has a nervous breakdown

Some left wing mother of 3 is shot in her car .....nothing to see here , everyone please remain calm

[fugsyphil]

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Its one rule for freaky religious right wing trigger happy yanks

And one for everyone else

Some far right christian is shot at a rally ........the right has a nervous breakdown

Some left wing mother of 3 is shot in her car .....nothing to see here , everyone please remain calm

Never normally join in on these but take out the left wing right wing description and any idiot can see that you should abhor both incidents equally and if you don't then you have become part of the problem

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Never normally join in on these but take out the left wing right wing description and any idiot can see that you should abhor both incidents equally and if you don't then you have become part of the problem

The assasination of a person who quite openly riled up immigrant groups and had a less than equitable attitude to large parts of society by a raving nutter with a gun .....and was not a member of the security services ......was shocking but hardly a surprise

The three shot takedown of a mother of three in her car going no more than 3 mph by a part time yet fully gunned up ICE agent ?

You think these are similar situations ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Never normally join in on these but take out the left wing right wing description and any idiot can see that you should abhor both incidents equally and if you don't then you have become part of the problem

The assasination of a person who quite openly riled up immigrant groups and had a less than equitable attitude to large parts of society by a raving nutter with a gun .....and was not a member of the security services ......was shocking but hardly a surprise

The three shot takedown of a mother of three in her car going no more than 3 mph by a part time yet fully gunned up ICE agent ?

You think these are similar situations ?

[JamesWales]

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Sounds like you are part of the problem, Sludge?!

[the other bob wilson]

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The assasination of a person who quite openly riled up immigrant groups and had a less than equitable attitude to large parts of society by a raving nutter with a gun .....and was not a member of the security services ......was shocking but hardly a surprise

The three shot takedown of a mother of three in her car going no more than 3 mph by a part time yet fully gunned up ICE agent ?

You think these are similar situations ?

Yes, the problems have much to do with those running the country seeing them differently.

[JamesWales]

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Yes, the problems have much to do with those running the country seeing them differently.

Sludges preamble is loaded of course, but assuming you are both talking about the Charlie Kirk murder, these two situations are of course different. Just like any two killings are.

But the basic premise as fugsyphil laid out that the loss of life is a tragedy, for the people, the children and families involved should not be beyond doubt.

[Dorcus]

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The assasination of a person who quite openly riled up immigrant groups and had a less than equitable attitude to large parts of society by a raving nutter with a gun .....and was not a member of the security services ......was shocking but hardly a surprise

The three shot takedown of a mother of three in her car going no more than 3 mph by a part time yet fully gunned up ICE agent ?

You think these are similar situations ?

Absolutely right: some murders are more tragic than others. I don't hear any of the Far Right Morality Police on here sharing their sympathies with the family of Osama Bin Laden.

[fugsyphil]

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The assasination of a person who quite openly riled up immigrant groups and had a less than equitable attitude to large parts of society by a raving nutter with a gun .....and was not a member of the security services ......was shocking but hardly a surprise

The three shot takedown of a mother of three in her car going no more than 3 mph by a part time yet fully gunned up ICE agent ?

You think these are similar situations ?

Surprised me that you took more umbrage at my reply than I expected as I was pretty much wholeheartedly agreeing with everything you said.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Surprised me that you took more umbrage at my reply than I expected as I was pretty much wholeheartedly agreeing with everything you said.

Good lad

[cyril evans awaydays]

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I'm not sure WB asking some questions is quite the crime some of you are making out.

Any legal case against the shooter that should follow (it's a huge issue is there is no investigation) will ask these questions;

The state of mind of the shooter
Did he have PTS? Should have have been working? Did he genuinely fear for his life? Why did the driver drive towards them? Why did someone shout drive? What were they doing on the day before the event? Why didn't he aim for tyres? Etc etc etc

All of these questions will be asked. It doesn't detract from the tragedy or what proved to be a grotesque overreaction to what she was doing.

He's asking questions. It's a bit odd.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5687963-doj-not-investigating-renee-good-shooting/

Looks like the DoJ has answered all those complex questions in double quick time and remarkably reached the same conclusion that Trump and Kristi Noem did on the the day of the shooting.....that there is no case to answer.

Also it seems that people on here are not alone in being ignorant about the current state of US Law. It appears that six Federal Investigators didn't realise that the real criminal in all this is the dead woman's wife and decided to resign rather than admit this and start investigating her.

[JamesWales]

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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...good-shooting/

Looks like the DoJ has answered all those complex questions in double quick time and remarkably reached the same conclusion that Trump and Kristi Noem did on the the day of the shooting.....that there is no case to answer.

Also it seems that people on here are not alone in being ignorant about the current state of US Law. It appears that six Federal Investigators didn't realise that the real criminal in all this is the dead woman's wife and decided to resign rather than admit this and start investigating her.

Exactly, valid questions to raise.

So the FBI is investigating? It's critical there is an investigation.

[jon1959]

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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...good-shooting/

Looks like the DoJ has answered all those complex questions in double quick time and remarkably reached the same conclusion that Trump and Kristi Noem did on the the day of the shooting.....that there is no case to answer.

Also it seems that people on here are not alone in being ignorant about the current state of US Law. It appears that six Federal Investigators didn't realise that the real criminal in all this is the dead woman's wife and decided to resign rather than admit this and start investigating her.

Close ranks. Blame the victim. Exclude local police and investigators. Conclude federal ‘investigation’. Assemble case to support that conclusion. Re-write the history of the event. Re-frame the central incident. Use compliant media and social media platforms to embed the new truth. Turn the killer into a folk hero. Give Trump the credit for this latest US triumph.

All good.

Except the clips of what really happened are out there. Everyone (possibly excepting James) knows the truth!

[JamesWales]

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Close ranks. Blame the victim. Exclude local police and investigators. Conclude federal ‘investigation’. Assemble case to support that conclusion. Re-write the history of the event. Re-frame the central incident. Use compliant media and social media platforms to embed the new truth. Turn the killer into a folk hero. Give Trump the credit for this latest US triumph.

All good.

Except the clips of what really happened are out there. Everyone (possibly excepting James) knows the truth!

Don't put words in my mouth please Jon - you can read what I've said on this from day one.

[jon1959]

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Don't put words in my mouth please Jon - you can read what I've said on this from day one.

What words have I put in your mouth James?

You were an early adopter of Gluey’s ‘questions’ about the incident. You have stressed the need for an FBI ‘investigation’. The videos are out there. They show the exact opposite of what the regime spokespeople claim.

The murder of Renee Good is clear to most people (including those denying murder and directing the federal ‘investigation’ I suspect). But you do not appear convinced.

How have I misrepresented you?