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  • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
    Sure, there has to be a serious reappraisal of how they conduct things, how they deal with protestors, how they recruit, how they determine who is fit for work and all the rest of it. What happened absolutely cannot be the norm.
    It seems to be becoming closer to the norm by the day!

    There is nothing wrong with your expectation that these events would be properly investigated, lessons learned and new practices introduced in normal times. The problem is that these are not normal times.

    The line on the first killing from the President, the VP and senior officials down was that the protestor was acting illegally and the ICE was acting appropriately. Furthermore Vance stated that the act itself was immune from prosecution. State law enforcement was excluded from any investigation and the Deputy Attorney General stated there would be no DoJ investigation other than of the dead woman's wife.

    The FBI seems to have already concluded the same. Six Justice Department prosecutors resigned because of the former and an FBI investigator for the latter.



    It is unsuprising seeing this that ICE officers acted as they did yesterday as the whole administration has told them they have their backs and their actions are relatively consequence free. Meanwhile the same defensive attack mode noises get uttered. Domestic terrorist brandishing a gun aired without any shame whilst copious videos give lie to every utterance.

    Separately Pam Bondi has written to the Governor of Minnesota stating that all this could go away if they only handed over the state electoral rolls to her. So it seems its no about ridding the US of unwanted immigrants. If it was there are millions more in Texas and Florida than Minnesota, but more pandering to the Sun King's fixation on states that marginally dissed him in 2020.

    Like I said, far from normal times!

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    • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

      Originally posted by caerkid View Post
      Its certainly interesting to see the American Right saying that legally carrying a concealed weapon is a threat.
      The mental gymnastics they're using to make this fit in alongside their insistence on their right to bear arms are spectacular

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      • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

        Yesterdays shooting was far worse than the previous one in my opinion. The only justifiable query is that he was armed and reached in his back pocket, but the gun had seemingly been removed. Irrespective, it's six on one and a deadly shot isn't a defensive one. I don't see how anyone can claim self defence. Sure, it's a tough job with instant life and death decisions that most of us will never make, but that doesn't mean there can't be consequences of it.

        So what happens now?

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        • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

          Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
          Yesterdays shooting was far worse than the previous one in my opinion. The only justifiable query is that he was armed and reached in his back pocket, but the gun had seemingly been removed. Irrespective, it's six on one and a deadly shot isn't a defensive one. I don't see how anyone can claim self defence. Sure, it's a tough job with instant life and death decisions that most of us will never make, but that doesn't mean there can't be consequences of it.

          So what happens now?
          As I said previously, the same. No interest from the people who empowered them to seek anything that looks like justice. Possibly the person that allegedly bit an ICE officer's finger will be prosecuted with the full force of Federal law.

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          • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
            Yesterdays shooting was far worse than the previous one in my opinion. The only justifiable query is that he was armed and reached in his back pocket, but the gun had seemingly been removed. Irrespective, it's six on one and a deadly shot isn't a defensive one. I don't see how anyone can claim self defence. Sure, it's a tough job with instant life and death decisions that most of us will never make, but that doesn't mean there can't be consequences of it.

            So what happens now?
            There were absolutely no "instant life and death decisions" in this instance: the gun was clearly removed seconds before the first shots were fired. Nothing less than cold blooded murder, open and shut case.

            I disagree that it's a tough job. Armed to the teeth, cocooned in protective gear, incognito and now apparently immune from retribution: for those that are the "Call Of Duty" types it sounds a fun gig to me. The only tough job at the moment seems to be trying to avoid being beaten up and being murdered in cold blood going about your daily life as an innocent citizen of Minneapolis!

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            • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

              That's straight up murder. Anyone who says otherwise is straight up lying. ICE need to get off the streets. They are a militia under a government banner.

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              • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

                Originally posted by PontBlue View Post
                That's straight up murder. Anyone who says otherwise is straight up lying. ICE need to get off the streets. They are a militia under a government banner.
                That's the problem though, the people who are in charge are straight up lying about what happened despite the overwhelming video evidence to the contrary. Then you've got people who would storm the capitol for the right to carry a gun saying he deserved it because he (legally) had a gun (that he didn't touch)

                How are you possibly meant to fight back against that level of prejudice

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                • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

                  Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                  As I said previously, the same. No interest from the people who empowered them to seek anything that looks like justice. Possibly the person that allegedly bit an ICE officer's finger will be prosecuted with the full force of Federal law.
                  The obvious next step is a moment of pause and genuine engagement between city, state, and federal authorities to work out what happens next, whilst full investigations take place. Will that happen? Seems highly unlikely. It cannot carry on like this though.

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                  • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

                    Originally posted by Packerman View Post
                    Sorry don’t get your last paragraph. It’s all abhorrent and stems from the loon in charge. Indefensible imho
                    Absolutely, was just a comment on what is politically acceptable to condemn,and what isn't. To be fair though Starmer (and many others) are in an impossible position to stay on the right side of that ego.

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                    • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

                      Making America a 3rd world country

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                      • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

                        Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                        Not sure if we have reached peak irony yet but ICE now targetting Sioux tribespeople!

                        https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...emands-action/
                        Siouxsie and the Banshees next? Maybe a record burning session at the National Monument?

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                        • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

                          Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                          Siouxsie and the Banshees next? Maybe a record burning session at the National Monument?
                          You have become a passenger in this thread!

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                          • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

                            Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                            You have become a passenger in this thread!
                            WTF you rambling about. You’re worse than your overlord.

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                            • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

                              Originally posted by ninian opinian View Post
                              WTF you rambling about. You’re worse than your overlord.
                              Harsh. :hehe:


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                              • Re: Minneapolis Execution Squad Defence Team

                                Another low life press conference , this time by border patrol

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