Greta has competition on the climate nonsense

[Coyote]

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We know as a terrorist supporting random bloke on a MB who you believe
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Not everything you personally disagree with is a conspiracy against you.

[Dorcus]

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Not everything you personally disagree with is a conspiracy against you.

I wonder who's paying Judith oodles and oodles of money?

[ninian opinian]

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We know as a terrorist supporting random bloke on a MB who you believe
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There’s always one loon.

[jon1959]

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We know as a terrorist supporting random bloke on a MB who you believe

I do not support terrorists. (I do not, and never have, supported the Israeli Occupation Forces or the USA military, who are the ones currently spreading terror around the world). Palestine Action protestors are not terrorists - even if you do agree with the Starmer government on that.

Shame - I thought better of you. My mistake. If that is you on another fishing trip I am truly sorry for you!

The 'hoax' sad cases clearly have some traction with you Heath.

There are genuine natural fluctuations in CO2 and temperature as the ice core analyses from the Antarctic have shown very clearly - over 800,000 years (with 3 million year samples still to be fully analysed buy showing the same pattern). Meteor strikes, volcanic eruptions, imbalances in oxygen and carbon production by fluctuations in dominant plant life have all caused natural ups and downs in temperature (tracking CO2 production).

But since the 1950s - and especially in the last 15-20 years - the graph has gone through the roof as a direct result of human activity. We have passed a tipping point and the effects will now be felt for centuries. The loss of arctic ice, reduced ice cover in the Antarctic, rising seas levels, changes to ocean currents, extreme weather events, loss of agricultural land (and food and water) are all coming faster and faster. A few winners but masses of losers.

But then there is Judith Curry....!

[Dorcus]

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I do not support terrorists. (I do not, and never have, supported the Israeli Occupation Forces or the USA military, who are the ones currently spreading terror around the world). Palestine Action protestors are not terrorists - even if you do agree with the Starmer government on that.

Shame - I thought better of you. My mistake. If that is you on another fishing trip I am truly sorry for you!

The 'hoax' sad cases clearly have some traction with you Heath.

There are genuine natural fluctuations in CO2 and temperature as the ice core analyses from the Antarctic have shown very clearly - over 800,000 years (with 3 million year samples still to be fully analysed buy showing the same pattern). Meteor strikes, volcanic eruptions, imbalances in oxygen and carbon production by fluctuations in dominant plant life have all caused natural ups and downs in temperature (tracking CO2 production).

But since the 1950s - and especially in the last 15-20 years - the graph has gone through the roof as a direct result of human activity. We have passed a tipping point and the effects will now be felt for centuries. The loss of arctic ice, reduced ice cover in the Antarctic, rising seas levels, changes to ocean currents, extreme weather events, loss of agricultural land (and food and water) are all coming faster and faster. A few winners but masses of losers.

But then there is Judith Curry....!

Judith may be "currying favour" with some vested interests perhaps?

[the other bob wilson]

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It is kinda annoying being lectured at by a child who clearly thought she knew everything but evidently did not and has spent the last few years by combating climate change by burrowing into a rabbit hole.

I feel sorry for her really, and was plainly exploited by older people who wanted to hide behind a child figure they knew was harder to criticise. I wouldn't use the word grooming but can you picture a 15 year old being used in such a way for any other cause?

Any talk of climate change hoaxes is nonsense, and not worth the risk even if we don't know everything. Also nonsense is any talk of net zero being remotely achievable without very profound impacts upon people's lives which would almost certainly end the drive for net zero before it was reached.

CO2 emissions continue to soar of course, but that seems to matter much less as long as it's happening somewhere else and we are merely seen to care.

https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions

What an odd message, you spend the first two paragraphs talking as if she’s been discredited somehow and then the rest of it apparently saying she’s been proved right.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Greta has competition on the climate nonsense

It is kinda annoying being lectured at by a child who clearly thought she knew everything but evidently did not and has spent the last few years by combating climate change by burrowing into a rabbit hole.

I feel sorry for her really, and was plainly exploited by older people who wanted to hide behind a child figure they knew was harder to criticise. I wouldn't use the word grooming but can you picture a 15 year old being used in such a way for any other cause?

Any talk of climate change hoaxes is nonsense, and not worth the risk even if we don't know everything. Also nonsense is any talk of net zero being remotely achievable without very profound impacts upon people's lives which would almost certainly end the drive for net zero before it was reached.

CO2 emissions continue to soar of course, but that seems to matter much less as long as it's happening somewhere else and we are merely seen to care.

https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions

Oh yes I can see a 15 year old being groomed for dodgy causes

Take your boys , reform

All over the young girl said by her dad to be incredibly upset over her school regarding her wearing union jack stuff on a culture day

She was 13 if I remenber and was even hauled along to stupid save the nation type rally events

[JamesWales]

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What an odd message, you spend the first two paragraphs talking as if she’s been discredited somehow and then the rest of it apparently saying she’s been proved right.

Not really. It's just reflective of having a mixed view on the situation. One can believe climate change exists and not find the whole "Greta thing" wholly positive. It's fine to not view everything in black and white terms!

I don't think she's been proved 'right' either. She's not a scientist, she was a school girl that parts of the media and climate lobby decided to promote.

[delmbox]

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We know as a terrorist supporting random bloke on a MB who you believe

Says the guy who's been gloating about his mates Trump and Q on this MB for years, although has gone weirdly quiet in the Trump thread since he shat the bed in Iran

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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For all Thunberg's failings and inconsistencies I can see how some of the younger generation can be exasperated with an older generation that had the advantages of our destructive actions regarding the planet whilst it now drags its heels in respect of any partial remedies.
"Drill, baby, drill" must be anathema to many young people who are aware of the man-made damage inflicted on their current and future environment.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Says the guy who's been gloating about his mates Trump and Q on this MB for years, although has gone weirdly quiet in the Trump thread since he shat the bed in Iran

I heard a rumour that Trump had pissed the bed in Moscow but not that Heathblue had a shit in Tehran. Please clarify!

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I heard a rumour that Trump had pissed the bed in Moscow but not that Heathblue had a shit in Tehran. Please clarify!

Both true

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Both true

One of them likes Derek Showers and the other Golden Showers so easy for me to get confused I guess!

[Heathblue]

Re: Greta has competition on the climate nonsense

Says the guy who's been gloating about his mates Trump and Q on this MB for years, although has gone weirdly quiet in the Trump thread since he shat the bed in Iran

Have you just got back from supporting the abortion up to 9 months appreciation demo?, pity your Al Quds flag was wasted on a pointless journey. I know Cyril has just returned from the last Wales away game. Have you kissed and made up yet ?

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Have you just got back from supporting the abortion up to 9 months appreciation demo?, pity your Al Quds flag was wasted on a pointless journey. I know Cyril has just returned from the last Wales away game. Have you kissed and made up yet ?

You would have never guessed, given the level of repressed anger, that you started this thread with a smiley!