Dominic Raab

[JamesWales]

Re: Dominic Raab

There’s a lot of propaganda to unpack here, so I’ll keep it simple.

U.K. literally in Kabul saving lives - what has that got to do with the foreign secretary being absent and not doing his job?

More people in work than ever - if you look at zero hour contracts etc maybe, but let’s wait until furlough ends and see if that holds up.

Immigration is rising - our net immigration is about the same as it’s always been. Which is miniscule in terms of our overall population and adds a net positive to our country when you see we have an ageing population with decreasing birth rates.

1- He clearly is doing his job isnt he, as these things dont happen without co-ordination from the top. Thats my point.

2 - Zero Hour contracts represent a small number of posts, and suit some people and dont suit others.

3 - Immigration since the 2000's is way higher than it used to be. The link i posted showed that. I dont disagree at all on the benefits, although I do agree in managed migration and not a laissez-faire solution.

[JamesWales]

Re: Dominic Raab

Maybe people care about both and are using it to bash one of the most corrupt and useless governments we’ve had in a long time.

Maybe they do care about both. They don't seem to talk about it mind. Feel free to talk about the evacuation of vulnerable people from Kabul airport as opposed to speculation about Raabs holiday if you like.

[Hilts]

Re: Dominic Raab

Maybe they do care about both. They don't seem to talk about it mind. Feel free to talk about the evacuation of vulnerable people from Kabul airport as opposed to speculation about Raabs holiday if you like.

Start a thread on the evacuation of vulnerable people from Kabul airport. This thread is about Raab.

[lardy]

Re: Dominic Raab

1- He clearly is doing his job isnt he, as these things dont happen without co-ordination from the top. Thats my point.

2 - Zero Hour contracts represent a small number of posts, and suit some people and dont suit others.

3 - Immigration since the 2000's is way higher than it used to be. The link i posted showed that. I dont disagree at all on the benefits, although I do agree in managed migration and not a laissez-faire solution.

You're talking a lot about the evacuation happening now - but the criticism is about Raab being on holiday and not getting involved while the Taliban were still outside Kabul, and the defences were on the verge of collapse.

[JamesWales]

Re: Dominic Raab

Start a thread on the evacuation of vulnerable people from Kabul airport. This thread is about Raab.

Same topic given he's foreign secretary

[Hilts]

Re: Dominic Raab

Should have a list of Tory boy whining.

1 but but but Jeremy Corbyn
2 but but but Diane Abbott
3 poor Boris such difficult times.
4 they are only criticising for political point scoring.
5 At least Boris hasnt stopped me getting my lamb chops at my preferred butchers.

[JamesWales]

Re: Dominic Raab

Should have a list of Tory boy whining.

1 but but but Jeremy Corbyn
2 but but but Diane Abbott
3 poor Boris such difficult times.
4 they are only criticising for political point scoring.
5 At least Boris hasnt stopped me getting my lamb chops at my preferred butchers.

You've misspelt winning ;)

[surge]

Re: Dominic Raab

BBC news at lunchtime said that Raab was asked to make phone-call to his equal in Afghanistan by his department's advisers but he delegated job to more junior position.

UK government's position as of 8th of July was that there isn't military path for Taliban victory which has been proved false very quickly.

Question is whether Raab showed poor judgement in misunderstanding what could happen over 1month plus and poor judgement again by asking person junior to him to make, on face of it, such a critical phone-call both of which have had dire outcomes.

UK are now reacting as quickly as possible but it's easy in hindsight, isn't it?

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

Re: Dominic Raab

I'm sure Raab and Johnson would both have been straight on it if some of their mates/donors could have made a few quid out of the situation.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Dominic Raab

Cameron

What an oily git he's turned out to be

Who would have thought that eh 🤔

[Baloo]

Re: Dominic Raab

Maybe they do care about both. They don't seem to talk about it mind. Feel free to talk about the evacuation of vulnerable people from Kabul airport as opposed to speculation about Raabs holiday if you like.

To be fair you were happy to share your take on Raab's holiday prior to declaring the story unimportant and uninteresting.

[Croesy Blue]

Re: Dominic Raab

To be fair you were happy to share your take on Raab's holiday prior to declaring the story unimportant and uninteresting.

Yeah exaclty.

Raab was asked to make one phonecall from his sun lounger and he refused and it sums him up.

I still can't believe anyone would defen him and the only reason I can grasp that someone would do it is they're such a biased tory supporter they'd never criticise anything to do with the party. The main thing wrong with party politics imo, people are so biased they'll over look anything to support the party and will vote for them regardless of all the corruption and cuntiness on display.

[Croesy Blue]

Re: Dominic Raab

Same topic given he's foreign secretary

If the actual important thing is what's going on in Kabul, why was this your first post?

Should he not go on holiday?

Or are you basing the insults on what the Labour Party have said? Because, as a general rule, you cant trust opposition parties to be entirely truthful about situations regarding their political opponents..

What's more important boots on the ground or boots on your tongue?

[JamesWales]

Re: Dominic Raab

Yeah exaclty.

Raab was asked to make one phonecall from his sun lounger and he refused and it sums him up.

I still can't believe anyone would defen him and the only reason I can grasp that someone would do it is they're such a biased tory supporter they'd never criticise anything to do with the party. The main thing wrong with party politics imo, people are so biased they'll over look anything to support the party and will vote for them regardless of all the corruption and cuntiness on display.

Or maybe:

1 - What you say happened, in fact didnt
2 - Whoever made the call wouldnt have made any difference
3 - People think its a side show to more important matters (like the ongoing airlift evacuations)

I've voted for all major parties and will gladly criticise the Tories, but just not on this trumped up charge of holiday speculation when far more important matters are taking place.