Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

[life on mars]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

why not tell us which you think are facts and which you think are opinions - then we can see if those you think are just opinions have any evidence to turn them into facts.

He always does that when the logical argument is lost . He wanted Corbyn as leader of our country FFS FACT

[jon1959]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

He always does that when the logical argument is lost . He wanted Corbyn as leader of our country FFS FACT

At last a fact - your wild guess turns out to be right - I did want Labour to win the 2017 and 2019 elections.

Unfortunately you blew any credit for that with your comical claim to have presented some kind of ‘logical argument’. You and your accountant mate have barely got past the stage of posting old Daily Express headlines.

[life on mars]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

At last a fact - your wild guess turns out to be right - I did want Labour to win the 2017 and 2019 elections.

Unfortunately you blew any credit for that with your comical claim to have presented some kind of ‘logical argument’. You and your accountant mate have barely got past the stage of posting old Daily Express headlines.

Temper, temper 😴

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

He always does that when the logical argument is lost . He wanted Corbyn as leader of our country FFS FACT

And you wanted Boris? Do you have a point?

[Feedback]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

At last a fact - your wild guess turns out to be right - I did want Labour to win the 2017 and 2019 elections.

Unfortunately you blew any credit for that with your comical claim to have presented some kind of ‘logical argument’. You and your accountant mate have barely got past the stage of posting old Daily Express headlines.

I've not seen any daily express headlines posted. Care to share them with us?

[jon1959]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

I've not seen any daily express headlines posted. Care to share them with us?

No.

[life on mars]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

No.

Ooh ,temper,temper.

No facts

[life on mars]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

And you wanted Boris? Do you have a point?

No I don't I voted Liberal Democrat and posted this many times.

FACT

[JamesWales]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

This sums it all up for me and why the Tories still outstrip Labour in terms of forming a viable government.

Lots of shouting on twitter. No actual proposals.

Reality is tough decisions need to be made and governing a country is f*****g hard work!

https://order-order.com/2021/09/13/rayner-fails-eight-times-to-detail-labours-alternative-social-care-funding-plans/

[jon1959]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

Ooh ,temper,temper.


No facts

You are a strange one. Why would I want to post Express headlines on this thread - when that is the role you have taken on with your Tory loving support act?

You still seem to be troubled by ‘facts’. The difference between facts and opinions doesn’t have to be such a minefield - any decent dictionary will do the job! Try it.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

This sums it all up for me and why the Tories still outstrip Labour in terms of forming a viable government.

Lots of shouting on twitter. No actual proposals.

Reality is tough decisions need to be made and governing a country is f*****g hard work!

https://order-order.com/2021/09/13/r...funding-plans/

Presumably you read the Tory manifestos cover to cover in 2017 and 2019. Of course you did it, only takes about 5 mins a piece, once your brain learns how to automatically filter out the soundbites and filler. Very little detail though, which should preclude them from 'forming a viable government'. Did you vote for them?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

No I don't I voted Liberal Democrat and posted this many times.

FACT

Thinking about it, you might have been better off spoiling your ballot sheet when you realised you had voted for the wrong party.

Being serious, I find it very odd that, while I know you voted Remain, you voted for the one party that stood on a ticket of taking us back into the EU when, based on what you say on here, I thought your attitude was the same as mine - we voted to leave, so let's do so.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

This sums it all up for me and why the Tories still outstrip Labour in terms of forming a viable government.

Lots of shouting on twitter. No actual proposals.

Reality is tough decisions need to be made and governing a country is f*****g hard work!

https://order-order.com/2021/09/13/r...funding-plans/

Labour had plenty of proposals in 2019, far more than the Tories, who just parroted "Get Brexit done". They also had plenty of popular proposals if this is to be believed, the problem appeared to be a combination of there being too many of them and a "toxic" leader.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/corybn-labour-policies-toxic-general-election-2019-leadership-latest-a9279946.html

[JamesWales]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

Presumably you read the Tory manifestos cover to cover in 2017 and 2019. Of course you did it, only takes about 5 mins a piece, once your brain learns how to automatically filter out the soundbites and filler. Very little detail though, which should preclude them from 'forming a viable government'. Did you vote for them?

As we so often see, any critique of 'your team' see's personal insults. I was criticising a prominent politician in the opposition failing to come up with a viable plan. Why get personal about it?

If you said, "yeah fair point, she should do better" I would be much more likely to vote Labour again. Instead you insult me and defend her shit interview.

[JamesWales]

Re: Social care facing 'unprecedented crisis'

Labour had plenty of proposals in 2019, far more than the Tories, who just parroted "Get Brexit done". They also had plenty of popular proposals if this is to be believed, the problem appeared to be a combination of there being too many of them and a "toxic" leader.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9279946.html

Yes, I know Labour had plenty of proposals; all parties did.

The point is that governance is ****ing hard, and Angela Rayner criticised a policy but didn't say what hers would be.

That's not good enough for me, sorry. I'm surprised it is for you. I'd like a viable government to tell me how my disabled fathers care may pan out in the coming years.