Another Brexit Bonus

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

[Swiss Peter]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Wasn't sure whether to put this in the Starmer thread or this one.

Good sensible stuff from Roy Hattersley.

"I admit there is a gaggle of Brexiters so fixated on the idea of sovereignty for sovereignty’s sake that “taking back control” is an achievement in itself for which they are prepared to pay an economic price".

"This is not the time for Labour to talk of making Brexit work. It is time to expose its failure and to offer a radical alternative – a closer working relationship with the EU."

"That is not to argue that the outcome of the 2016 referendum can be ignored. Democracy demands it be respected, notwithstanding the fraudulent claims made by Brexiters. But the decision of a one-day referendum cannot determine a nation’s long-term destiny, as Brexiters must agree"

http://https://www.theguardian.com/c...nd-with-europe

[JamesWales]

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Wasn't sure whether to put this in the Starmer thread or this one.

Good sensible stuff from Roy Hattersley.

"I admit there is a gaggle of Brexiters so fixated on the idea of sovereignty for sovereignty’s sake that “taking back control” is an achievement in itself for which they are prepared to pay an economic price".

"This is not the time for Labour to talk of making Brexit work. It is time to expose its failure and to offer a radical alternative – a closer working relationship with the EU."

"That is not to argue that the outcome of the 2016 referendum can be ignored. Democracy demands it be respected, notwithstanding the fraudulent claims made by Brexiters. But the decision of a one-day referendum cannot determine a nation’s long-term destiny, as Brexiters must agree"

http://https://www.theguardian.com/c...nd-with-europe

People like Hattersley have been pumping this stuff out for 6 years now, with the guardian always a willing vehicle, as it gives it's readers what they want to read.

It's not gonna happen.

[Swiss Peter]

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People like Hattersley have been pumping this stuff out for 6 years now, with the guardian always a willing vehicle, as it gives it's readers what they want to read.

It's not gonna happen.

If you mean by that the UK will never enter a Swiss or Norwegian style economic arrangement with the EU - you may be right - but I suspect common sense/economic necessity will trump this brexit evangelism at some point.

[Dorcus]

Re: Another Brexit Bonus

Wasn't sure whether to put this in the Starmer thread or this one.

Good sensible stuff from Roy Hattersley.

"I admit there is a gaggle of Brexiters so fixated on the idea of sovereignty for sovereignty’s sake that “taking back control” is an achievement in itself for which they are prepared to pay an economic price".

"This is not the time for Labour to talk of making Brexit work. It is time to expose its failure and to offer a radical alternative – a closer working relationship with the EU."

"That is not to argue that the outcome of the 2016 referendum can be ignored. Democracy demands it be respected, notwithstanding the fraudulent claims made by Brexiters. But the decision of a one-day referendum cannot determine a nation’s long-term destiny, as Brexiters must agree"

http://https://www.theguardian.com/c...nd-with-europe

I think it won't be too long before the general public will demand we put an end to this farce. Give it five years or so when the bulk of the Brexity tribe will have shuffled off their mortal coils and there will be clarion calls for the status quo to be restored and thereby usher in the return to normality.

[life on mars]

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A British wine wholesaler who last year criticised Brexit as the biggest threat to his business in 30 years has decided to leave the UK after post-Brexit paperwork made a £150,000 hole in revenue.

Daniel Lambert, who supplies Marks & Spencer, Waitrose and 300 independent retailers, is moving to Montpellier in France later this week with his wife and two teenage children.

There he will set up a French company to export back to his own company in Wales.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...exit-paperwork

balance

n 2018, the UK wine and spirits industry: created £49 billion in economic activity. generated £21.7 billion in sales, £10.6 billion of which in sales of wine. employed 358,000 people across the supply chain.

LONDON, June 7, 2022 /PRNewswire/ -- Full results from the Decanter World Wine Awards 2022 have been released today (7 June), revealing impressive wins for the UK, with 151 medals awarded, the most in the competition's history for homegrown wines and wines from UK supermarkets also achieving notable wins in the Value category.

Decanter World Wine Awards (DWWA) is the world's largest and most influential wine competition, with unrivaled global reach. Judged by top wine experts from around the globe, DWWA is trusted internationally for its rigorous judging process.

Try not read and believe the Guardian selective agenda , you dint when it was crucifying Corbyn .

[jon1959]

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balance

n 2018, the UK wine and spirits industry: created £49 billion in economic activity. generated £21.7 billion in sales, £10.6 billion of which in sales of wine. employed 358,000 people across the supply chain.

LONDON, June 7, 2022 /PRNewswire/ -- Full results from the Decanter World Wine Awards 2022 have been released today (7 June), revealing impressive wins for the UK, with 151 medals awarded, the most in the competition's history for homegrown wines and wines from UK supermarkets also achieving notable wins in the Value category.

Decanter World Wine Awards (DWWA) is the world's largest and most influential wine competition, with unrivaled global reach. Judged by top wine experts from around the globe, DWWA is trusted internationally for its rigorous judging process.

Try not read and believe the Guardian selective agenda , you dint when it was crucifying Corbyn .

Well that's certainly debunked Mr Lambert's claims of excessive Brexit paperwork! Demolished his complaint point by point!

(And just to be helpful, here's your source: https://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/con...ustry-overview)

(A further point: 358.000 people employed in the UK wine supply chain probably does not mean they are all employed in the UK - the sales figure includes wine imports!)

[life on mars]

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Balance

https://www.doverport.co.uk/about/news/woefully-inadequate-french-border-resource-ruins-s/13687/

22nd July 2022 - News Articles
WOEFULLY INADEQUATE FRENCH BORDER RESOURCE RUINS START TO THE SUMMER GETAWAY
On behalf of passengers trying to get on their way for a well-earned summer holiday, HGV drivers performing their critical role of delivering goods, our community who are severely impacted, our ferry operators awaiting their customers, our own port staff who have worked so hard in good faith and all of our Kent and Government partners with whom we have prepared together over several months for the busy summer; we are deeply frustrated that the resource at the French border overnight and early this morning has been woefully inadequate to meet our predicted demand and even more deeply regret the consequences that will now be felt by so many.

Knowing we are now in a new world of post-Brexit and Covid checks, we worked to increase interim French border control booths by 50% and has improved traffic systems in order to build in resilience and capacity in time for the summer. The Port of Dover made significant investment and delivered on this. We trained a new team of passenger champions to be on hand and assist customers at the port. They are there working hard and doing all they can to help them. We also have provided enhanced amenities, such as toilets and refreshments, as well as water refilling stations, to look after customers.

We have worked particularly hard, and extremely positively up to now, with our Police Aux Frontieres (PAF) colleagues over recent months to plan for the traffic volumes that were fully expected. We have shared traffic volumes in granular detail with the French authorities in order that these volumes can be matched by adequate border resource. The Dover route remains the most popular sea route to France and France remains one of the key holiday destinations for British families. We know that resource is finite, but the popularity of Dover is not a surprise. Regrettably, the PAF resource has been insufficient and has fallen far short of what is required to ensure a smooth first weekend of the peak summer getaway period.

We will continue to work with all Kent partners to look after those caught up in the current situation, which could and should have been avoided, and play our part in resolving it as soon as possible. Working with and through the UK government, we will also liaise constructively with PAF to work through the present logjam and to stress again the importance of adequate French border resource for the coming days and weeks on which we had previously been assured. We have to work as a team, and when we do the system works incredibly well, but it is reliant on every team member playing their part.

0730 Friday 22nd July 2022

[jon1959]

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'Post Brexit checks' eh?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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'Post Brexit checks' eh?

Takes just a second, I understand.

[JamesWales]

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'Post Brexit checks' eh?

You glad you didn't take up my bet on the traffic chaos at Dover for the weekend just passed? It's a shame, as you could have given a small donation to a charity of my choice.

Thank god we rejoined the EU in the middle of last week to avoid the chaos!

[Hilts]

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Takes just a second, I understand.

😂😂😂😂

[the other bob wilson]

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You glad you didn't take up my bet on the traffic chaos at Dover for the weekend just passed? It's a shame, as you could have given a small donation to a charity of my choice.

Thank god we rejoined the EU in the middle of last week to avoid the chaos!

So, it’s got so bad now that a weekend when things didn’t go, much, wrong is seen as a “Brexit bonus”?

[JamesWales]

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So, it’s got so bad now that a weekend when things didn’t go, much, wrong is seen as a “Brexit bonus”?

I wouldn't take my comment entirely seriously..

But no...last week we had huge queues outside Dover.

One argument was it was down to understaffing. One argument was it was down to having left the EU.

We are still outside the EU, the same ferry schedule was running, presumably more-or-less as busy, so perhaps, incredible as it may seem, this issue was not really down to being outside the EU?

Just a thought.

[Hilts]

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I wouldn't take my comment entirely seriously..

But no...last week we had huge queues outside Dover.

One argument was it was down to understaffing. One argument was it was down to having left the EU.

We are still outside the EU, the same ferry schedule was running, presumably more-or-less as busy, so perhaps, incredible as it may seem, this issue was not really down to being outside the EU?

Just a thought.

Youd presume wrong which isnt suprising after your 1 second check claim.