The Donald Trump thread

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

I answered it. Trump is not a typical politician. He accepted the challenge to clean up the corrupt Washington political system .. that place where you don't think any problems exist.

That wasn't what you said. And I've never said there are no problems in Washington. So, two lies in one short post. If you're making up stuff about what I have or haven't said, then I think it's time to draw a line under this.

[Wales-Bales]

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That wasn't what you said. And I've never said there are no problems in Washington. So, two lies in one short post. If you're making up stuff about what I have or haven't said, then I think it's time to draw a line under this.

I've got a funny feeling that you may have opposing views to me, and you are a closet supporter of political corruption and democratic disorder. You still haven't expressed a single original thought on here, so I think it's time for us to call it a day

[life on mars]

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I answered it. Trump is not a typical politician. He accepted the challenge to clean up the corrupt Washington political system .. that place where you don't think any problems exist.

The irony about folk and American politics before Trump, there was always a view that American politics was very corrupt and just fed the corporate greed and East Coast billionaires ,along came Trump and the hatred was targeted towards an individual rather than the establishment that is and always exists in America.

Just because it's a Democratic it doesn't mean they exists in some caring world .

Trump is driving a tank through the political swamp , and the establishment is desperately out to get him .

There are comparison here with JC.

[Wales-Bales]

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The irony about folk and American politics before Trump, there was always a view that American politics was very corrupt and just fed the corporate greed and East Coast billionaires ,along came Trump and the hatred was targeted towards an individual rather than the establishment that is and always exists in America.

Just because it's a Democratic it doesn't mean they exists in some caring world .

Trump is driving a tank through the political swamp , and the establishment is desperately out to get him .

There are comparison here with JC.

The media are tell them what to do and they are obedient servants.

[the other bob wilson]

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The irony about folk and American politics before Trump, there was always a view that American politics was very corrupt and just fed the corporate greed and East Coast billionaires ,along came Trump and the hatred was targeted towards an individual rather than the establishment that is and always exists in America.

Just because it's a Democratic it doesn't mean they exists in some caring world .

Trump is driving a tank through the political swamp , and the establishment is desperately out to get him .

There are comparison here with JC.

Donald Trump was an “East Coast billionaire” last time I looked (he never stops telling us he is at least) and I’m afraid it didn’t take long at all for the tank you say he is driving through the swamp to become bogged down in it with the rest of them – sorry, but I fail to see a difference between him and the bogeymen and women of the “establishment”.

Having taken a deliberate break from this board of about a week, I returned this morning to read an exchange between gluey and B of A that had taken place in the last few days in this thread. It was fascinating stuff with gluey opting to play the man, not the ball as he claimed victory in the increasing smug tone he has adopted in recent weeks despite it appearing to me that he had been beaten hands down.

Apparently, gluey had claimed that all politicians are liars in the past and he was asked, reasonably enough, whether this included Donald Trump. This brought about an "ah, but is he really a politician response?" which I presume gluey thought made him look cool and enigmatic – seemingly, Trump is not a politician, more a Chief Executive.

The conversation between gluey and B of A had started when the former posted a link to an Alt right site which claimed they had “1,375 Well Sourced Examples Of Barack Obama’s Lies, Lawbreaking, Corruption, Cronyism, Hypocrisy, Waste, Etc.” – gluey was so keen to make his point that he enlarged these words and also highlighted them in red.

All very shocking stuff if true and compelling evidence of the existence of Mr Trump’s swamp it would appear. However, without wishing to minimise Mr Obama’s untruths at all, it does all tend to pale somewhat when compared to his successor – there are political liars and then, on a completely different plane, there is Donald Trump!

The Washington Post is claiming that Trump has told 10,000 plus lies in the two and a half years or so since he was sworn in as President and say that all of them have been fact checked.

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2019/how-the-washington-post-tallied-more-than-10000-trump-falsehoods-in-less-than-three-years/

Of course, this comes from a publication much derided by gluey and his alt right friends as being the epitome of the despised mainstream media, so let’s instead see what a respected fact checking site, which is generally accepted as being politically neutral has to say about President Trump and his somewhat erratic relationship with the truth.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

So, 70 per cent of the claims made by Trump that Politifact checked were deemed to fall into the “mostly false”, “false” and liar, liar “pants on fire” categories! How does this compare with Barack Obama?

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama

It seems that 73 per cent of the former President’s investigated claims are rated as “true”, “mostly true” or “half true”.

Interestingly, Politifact addressed the question of Trump’s lying at the mid point term of his Presidency

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/jan/14/why-trump-most-fact-checked-president/

I see gluey has claimed that Trump critics (no doubt including myself) are “on the wrong side of history”, but, whether that is true or not, I feel confident that history will judge Donald Trump as an inveterate liar – you’ve taken a hell of a beating on that score at least gluey!

[Wales-Bales]

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"Cool and enigmatic" .. I like it

I'm still waiting for B of A to express an original thought though..

Regarding the rest of your diatribe I was referencing Trumps own viewpoint:

[Wales-Bales]

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The conversation between gluey and B of A had started when the former posted a link to an Alt right site which claimed they had “1,375 Well Sourced Examples Of Barack Obama’s Lies, Lawbreaking, Corruption, Cronyism, Hypocrisy, Waste, Etc.” – gluey was so keen to make his point that he enlarged these words and also highlighted them in red.

1,375 Well Sourced Examples Of Barack Obama’s Lies, Lawbreaking, Corruption, Cronyism, Hypocrisy, Waste, Etc.



https://freedomoutpost.com/the-list-...isy-waste-etc/

I must have been pissed, I don't remember writing this in big red letters

[the other bob wilson]

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"Cool and enigmatic" .. I like it

I'm still waiting for B of A to express an original thought though..

Regarding the rest of your diatribe I was referencing Trumps own viewpoint:

God, did that only last six minutes? It seemed like hours and I don't get what it had to do with whether Trump is a liar or not.

As for B of A, he didn't need a single original thought to win his argument, all he needed to do was look at the overwhelming evidence that is out there when it comes to Trump and his lying.

[the other bob wilson]

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I must have been pissed, I don't remember writing this in big red letters

Oops - apologies for that, doesn't alter the fact your boy is a compulsive liar though.

[Wales-Bales]

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God, did that only last six minutes? It seemed like hours and I don't get what it had to do with whether Trump is a liar or not.

As for B of A, he didn't need a single original thought to win his argument, all he needed to do was look at the overwhelming evidence that is out there when it comes to Trump and his lying.

I've never said Trump wasn't a liar, I just said he wasn't a typical politician. He's never held any political office before, and he doesn't act like a politician.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

I've never said Trump wasn't a liar, I just said he wasn't a typical politician. He's never held any political office before, and he doesn't act like a politician.

As I said, you took a hell of a beating in that argument.

[Wales-Bales]

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As I said, you took a hell of a beating in that argument.

Different points of view, that's all

[Organ Morgan.]

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Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

Hearing word that Russia, Syria and, to a lesser extent, Iran, are bombing the hell out of Idlib Province in Syria, and indiscriminately killing many innocent civilians. The World is watching this butchery. What is the purpose, what will it get you? STOP!

Syria and their allies bomb the remnants of Al Qaeda in the Idlib region of Syria but Don doesn't like it and even has the brass neck to ask what's the purpose of killing terrorists.

Please stop killing our mercenaries which we and our pals have spent a fortune creating, arming and directing otherwise we'll arrange another half-arsed false flag chlorine attack which we will pin on Assad, would be the truth.

[lardy]

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Trump, at business roundtable in London, says to Theresa May about US-UK trade agreement, that while he doesn’t know exact timing of her departure, he urges her to “stick around” and “let’s do this deal.”

The room chuckled.

— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) June 4, 2019

[Wales-Bales]

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Trump, at business roundtable in London, says to Theresa May about US-UK trade agreement, that while he doesn’t know exact timing of her departure, he urges her to “stick around” and “let’s do this deal.”

The room chuckled.

— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) June 4, 2019

Poor Theresa