The Donald Trump thread

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Wales-Bales, Mrs Steve R was coughing because you are not a lone voice on here. There's her, Organ, me and a few others on the "alternative side". I discovered Velikovsky, Icke and Cooper in the mid 1990s so I've been ploughing this furrow for half my life.

You are very well informed and I applaud your anti-Hillary stance but let's face it, no one knows where Trump is heading. His insistence on blaming both sides for violence was encouraging though, in the face of a full-on MSM "progessive" shill onslaught.

I've said many times that I am still on the fence regarding Trump, and I've yet to see anything definative happening to sway me one way or the other. However, I do think he has a carefully laid out gameplan, but it could go either way. I've noticed he is pretty cunning, he lets other people say or do things, before endorsing or criticising them after the fact. Yesterday's press conference was interesting, I think he has a lot more information than we or the press have. When he is at his most combative he usually wins.

[CardiffIrish2]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Personally I saw in that press conference a man appearing to condone the actions of people who supported a murderous dictator who the American army fought against.

When David Duke is showing his support for you then I'd say you're doing something very wrong.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Personally I saw in that press conference a man appearing to condone the actions of people who supported a murderous dictator who the American army fought against.

When David Duke is showing his support for you then I'd say you're doing something very wrong.

His use of language also hinted at agent provocateurs being present on both sides.

[Sgt. Pepper]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Civil unrest may well part of the plan, by whoever is really in charge.
Don appears to be stirring the pot. Again.
Who is pulling the strings.

[CardiffIrish2]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

His use of language also hinted at agent provocateurs being present on both sides.

There may well have been.
But only one of that side used a car and ploughed into someone killing them.

[Eric Cartman]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Wales-Bales, Mrs Steve R was coughing because you are not a lone voice on here. There's her, Organ, me and a few others on the "alternative side". I discovered Velikovsky, Icke and Cooper in the mid 1990s so I've been ploughing this furrow for half my life.

You are very well informed and I applaud your anti-Hillary stance but let's face it, no one knows where Trump is heading. His insistence on blaming both sides for violence was encouraging though, in the face of a full-on MSM "progessive" shill onslaught.

Here it is the other way around. Corbyn got destroyed by the right wing media and its supporters for condemning all violence during the troubles as opposed to singling out one group.

The only thing I would say about the reaction to Charlottesville is that there are differing levels of violence and driving a car into a crowd to indiscriminately kill and maim (as is the accusation) is more extreme than other types. If I punch you in the arm and you shoot me in the forehead should the headline be 'violence on all sides'?

[Sgt. Pepper]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

There may well have been.
But only one of that side used a car and ploughed into someone killing them.

While we really do all need to acknowledge that agitation is clearly not solely a Right-wing attribute, it is worth pointing out that it is almost solely Right-wing Groups that turn up as sects, with uniform, regalia, symbols and an agenda of hatred.
Likely to appeal to those of a weak and disturbed disposition, worryingly.
What does the Alt-left even look like?
How would an impressionable kid join them?
But, yeah who are they?

As for the others - Nazis are still Nazis..

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

There may well have been.
But only one of that side used a car and ploughed into someone killing them.

By definition having agent provocateurs on both sides points towards a staged event.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Here it is the other way around. Corbyn got destroyed by the right wing media and its supporters for condemning all violence during the troubles as opposed to singling out one group.

The only thing I would say about the reaction to Charlottesville is that there are differing levels of violence and driving a car into a crowd to indiscriminately kill and maim (as is the accusation) is more extreme than other types. If I punch you in the arm and you shoot me in the forehead should the headline be 'violence on all sides'?

Corbyn and Trump have a lot in common. While popular with the general public, the establishment don't want them anywhere near the ruling government.

[lardy]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Wales-Bales, Mrs Steve R was coughing because you are not a lone voice on here. There's her, Organ, me and a few others on the "alternative side". I discovered Velikovsky, Icke and Cooper in the mid 1990s so I've been ploughing this furrow for half my life.

You are very well informed and I applaud your anti-Hillary stance but let's face it, no one knows where Trump is heading. His insistence on blaming both sides for violence was encouraging though, in the face of a full-on MSM "progessive" shill onslaught.

There's nothing wrong with being anti-hillary, as long as it's about what she stands for, not the pizza paedophile conspiracy.

I've always thought you generally present your arguments well, so I don't know why you'd want to align yourself with extreme right wing material and terrorist apology posts from the last couple of days.

[Sgt. Pepper]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

His use of language also hinted at agent provocateurs being present on both sides.

No need to hint about those who turned up with regalia, symbols and open racist hatred eh?
What does the supposed alt left 'hate'?
Nazis and Rednecks?
Well - good on 'em.

[CardiffIrish2]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

No need to hint about those who turned up with regalia, symbols and open racist hatred eh?
What does the supposed alt left 'hate'?
Nazis and Rednecks?
Well - good on 'em.

Don't forget the rifles too. I mean why the duck would you turn up with a rifle??

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

No need to hint about those who turned up with regalia, symbols and open racist hatred eh?
What does the supposed alt left 'hate'?
Nazis and Rednecks?
Well - good on 'em.

There are too many variables in play at the moment, it needs more investigation. Are the Alt-Left Soros's hired guns? We've seen many examples of his handiwork recently in Libya, Syria, Ukraine, etc,. Also you have to identify the agent provocateurs, are they the ones who are dressing up, using regalia and symbols to stir up trouble? The people on the ground are the bit part players, who are the real power brokers? From recent communications it seems like Trump, DOJ and FBI are on the case.

And what about these fellas?

[Wales-Bales]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

There's nothing wrong with being anti-hillary, as long as it's about what she stands for, not the pizza paedophile conspiracy.

I've always thought you generally present your arguments well, so I don't know why you'd want to align yourself with extreme right wing material and terrorist apology posts from the last couple of days.

Who says he is aligning with anybody? When conducting research you have to look at many sources of information. You are very quick to shoot your mouth off without thinking BTW have you even looked into the pedo stuff beyond what the MSM have to say?

[lardy]

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Who says he is aligning with anybody? When conducting research you have to look at many sources of information. You are very quick to shoot your mouth off without thinking

If someone had posted a video in the aftermath of the London Bridge attack saying it was just an accident, and asked "what would you do in that situation?" on here they would have been absolutely slaughtered* and probably banned. You're lucky that so few people read your posts.

BTW have you even looked into the pedo stuff beyond what the MSM have to say?

Yes, of course I have. Can you show me the convincing evidence as I couldn't find it.



*not the best choice of word in hindsight