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**the other bob wilson** · 03-04-25, 04:59

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Originally posted by JamesWales View Post

Well I guess we are about to find out.

One likely scenario though is that it actually leads to a rather rapid reduction in tariffs given he cites those on US goods as justification for the changes.

I think it's a power play more than anything

James, you don’t have to come and hear and try and defend Trump just because it’s what you think you’re expected to do. If any other leader of one of the other major counties of the world introduced tariffs in the way Trump has they’d be labelled mad, but, because of who it is, people just shrug their shoulders and mutter “it’s just Trump being Trump”.

**WJ99mobile** · 03-04-25, 05:36

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Originally posted by az city View Post

Laughable. His unilateral declaration of a trade war will make every poor person on the planet worse off.

Is that his problem?

**WJ99mobile** · 03-04-25, 05:37

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post

James, you don’t have to come and hear and try and defend Trump just because it’s what you think you’re expected to do. If any other leader of one of the other major counties of the world introduced tariffs in the way Trump has they’d be labelled mad, but, because of who it is, people just shrug their shoulders and mutter “it’s just Trump being Trump”.

Yes but he can do it because of how strong americas economy is.

The jeopardy is lower for him than others

**lardy** · 03-04-25, 05:53

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post

Yes but he can do it because of how strong americas economy is.

The jeopardy is lower for him than others

I'm not sure about that.

For everyone else, they have one country with extra tariffs, albeit a major one.

For the US, it's everyone they trade with. They aren't going to start manufacturing enough for themselves over night. I'd say jeopardy and risk is far higher for the US than others.

**lardy** · 03-04-25, 06:02

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Originally posted by JamesWales View Post

Well I guess we are about to find out.

One likely scenario though is that it actually leads to a rather rapid reduction in tariffs given he cites those on US goods as justification for the changes.

I think it's a power play more than anything

It looks like a list of countries, with a basic formula for allocating a tariff amount. I say that as one of the countries is an island inhabited by penguins. I'm not sure much planning has gone into this.

A likely scenario is that it will all get abandoned soon, Trump will spin it as being the strong man, the global alpha who everyone is afraid of, and two or three posters on here will lap it up.

**the other bob wilson** · 03-04-25, 06:23

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post

Yes but he can do it because of how strong americas economy is.

The jeopardy is lower for him than others

No, it was under Biden that America has had the strong economy - well, stronger than the one they've had in the past three months anyway.

**the other bob wilson** · 03-04-25, 06:39

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Farrukh (@implausibleblog) on X

https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1907553365703139528

Utterly surreal conversation between the Deputy Assistant to President Trump and Victoria Derbyshire If you watch one thing, watch this #Newsnight https://t.co/qWaQTQ0YQ1

**Dave Blue** · 03-04-25, 07:28

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post

https://x.com/implausibleblog/status...53365703139528

I wonder would he have taken that tone with a man?
On Trump, he couldn�t care less what effect any decision has as long as the world is talking about him.

**stevo** · 03-04-25, 07:46

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Anyone notice the apt frame crop on Victoria Derbyshire?

That Gorka is a right tool. Horrible man.

**JamesWales** · 03-04-25, 07:58

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post

I wonder would he have taken that tone with a man?
On Trump, he couldn�t care less what effect any decision has as long as the world is talking about him.

He would! This is also only the latest Incarnation. He's interviewed on Newsnight by Victoria Derbyshire quite often. Always the same tone

**JamesWales** · 03-04-25, 08:02

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post

James, you don’t have to come and hear and try and defend Trump just because it’s what you think you’re expected to do. If any other leader of one of the other major counties of the world introduced tariffs in the way Trump has they’d be labelled mad, but, because of who it is, people just shrug their shoulders and mutter “it’s just Trump being Trump”.

I'm not sure that's a defence Bob.

It is true, we are about to find out.

It is true that these tariffs will be a starting point with many countries negotiating to bring them down.

I also do think it's a power play to flex American muscles in the global manufacturing/goods market. And it's political as much as anything Lewis Goodall said as much on Newsnight as well.

**stevo** · 03-04-25, 11:18

Re: The Donald Trump thread

https://youtube.com/shorts/tg8PQzgV4ls?si=H3jT6WauhBR1X_QA

**Wales-Bales** · 03-04-25, 12:05

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Originally posted by stevo View Post

https://youtube.com/shorts/tg8PQzgV4...jT6WauhBR1X_QA

Make parity great again?

**az city** · 03-04-25, 14:02

Re: The Donald Trump thread

How stupid does Brexit look now in a trade war world?

**Dorcus** · 03-04-25, 16:06

Re: The Donald Trump thread

Originally posted by az city View Post

How stupid does Brexit look now in a trade war world?

Phenomenally stupid, and that's even before we consider the political implications of a disunited Europe within the new world order.

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