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    He essentially said nothing when reading a script while looking tired and depressed.

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      We're Doomed.

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        Originally posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
        He essentially said nothing when reading a script while looking tired and depressed.

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          Are they CGIing the fanny out of trump's neck, now?

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            Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
            You'll see this as heresy I'm sure, but I've just watched an American public service documentary series on Bill Clinton which was far from just a tribute to him and it struck me that the way he was treated by the Republicans compares very closely to how the Democrats have been with Trump. Was that also an attempted coup against an elected President or do different rules apply because Clinton is a, despised, globalist?
            in your own time Gluey.

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              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
              in your own time Gluey.
              We're the CIA, FBI, DOJ and foreign intel agencies also involved?

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                Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                We're the CIA, FBI, DOJ and foreign intel agencies also involved?
                Nothing to do with the question I asked you, but, even if it were, the situation remains that the fate of both men was in the hands of a group of people with the power to remove an elected leader from his job and, in Clinton's case, the vote went entirely along party lines and, in Trump's, it went almost entirely along party lines. As both men had enough members of their own party involved in the vote to ensure that the required two thirds majority did not happen, they were always going to survive because of the deeply biased nature of those doing the voting - Clinton and Trump would have been removed from office if the Republicans in Clinton's case and Democrats in Trump's had over 66 per cent of those eligible to vote.

                Yet, you constantly tell us that there was an attempted coup to remove Trump, the legally elected President (despite him losing the popular vote by a far bigger margin than the one which decided the Brexit referendum), so why won't you say the same about Clinton's impeachment?

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                  Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                  Nothing to do with the question I asked you, but, even if it were, the situation remains that the fate of both men was in the hands of a group of people with the power to remove an elected leader from his job and, in Clinton's case, the vote went entirely along party lines and, in Trump's, it went almost entirely along party lines. As both men had enough members of their own party involved in the vote to ensure that the required two thirds majority did not happen, they were always going to survive because of the deeply biased nature of those doing the voting - Clinton and Trump would have been removed from office if the Republicans in Clinton's case and Democrats in Trump's had over 66 per cent of those eligible to vote.

                  Yet, you constantly tell us that there was an attempted coup to remove Trump, the legally elected President (despite him losing the popular vote by a far bigger margin than the one which decided the Brexit referendum), so why won't you say the same about Clinton's impeachment?
                  Clinton actually did what he was accused of doing.

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                    Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                    Clinton actually did what he was accused of doing.
                    Trump admitted to the thing he was accused of as well, so, once again, I ask why is one an "attempted coup" and not the other one?

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                      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                      Trump admitted to the thing he was accused of as well, so, once again, I ask why is one an "attempted coup" and not the other one?
                      He was well within his rights to ask the Ukrainian president to investigate corruption as there is an anti-corruption agreement between both countries, which incidentally is now underway in Ukraine.

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                        Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                        He was well within his rights to ask the Ukrainian president to investigate corruption as there is an anti-corruption agreement between both countries, which incidentally is now underway in Ukraine.
                        Yeah, of course he was. Oh well, I tried, but I knew all along I would not get a straight answer from you - no one ever does

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                          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                          Yeah, of course he was. Oh well, I tried, but I knew all along I would not get a straight answer from you - no one ever does
                          Facts are facts, even if you don't want them to be facts. Ukraine are now officially investigating Burisma Holdings whether you like it or not. How much straighter do you want my answer to be?

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                            Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                            I expect he's found a cure.
                            Israel has

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                              Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                              Israel has
                              No.

                              No they haven't.

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                                Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                                Facts are facts, even if you don't want them to be facts. Ukraine are now officially investigating Burisma Holdings whether you like it or not. How much straighter do you want my answer to be?
                                So, this is an anti corruption deal whereby the American President is required to withhold Congress approved military aid payments to Ukraine as a part of the procedure and demand that one of his political opponents' sons be investigated by them before said investigation can take place is it? I see, but the thought does strike me that it's all a complicated for a deal whereby two countries are co-operating isn't it? I find your use of the word "now" in your last messages interesting.

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