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    You should read what Starmer really thinks on the Arsenal message board. Forget the sterile press releases. We all know it's places like this that are the cutting edge of political discourse.

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      Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
      Oh, I missed the shooting a politician and a member of the public caveat, I thought it was a statement for life!
      I guess it's easier when you can spout off about theoretical things but maybe you missed the point that that is what has as actually happened and that's what we are talking about?

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        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
        I guess it's easier when you can spout off about theoretical things but maybe you missed the point that that is what has as actually happened and that's what we are talking about?
        My moral code doesn't take into account whether someone has my political views or not.

        Sorry missed the nuances in this.

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          Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
          My moral code doesn't take into account whether someone has my political views or not.

          Sorry missed the nuances in this.
          There is no nuance on that, that's why.
          Some things are black and white. Like trying to kill someone and actually killing someone else. That's bad.

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            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
            There is no nuance on that, that's why.
            Some things are black and white. Like trying to kill someone and actually killing someone else. That's bad.
            The strange thing is in the set of circumstances you seem to want to make a stand on I don't think many, if any, disagree with you.

            The nuance bit was that you bring that stark stated train of thought about your moral code to every exchange on here. We all know that's pants, but if you want to believe it then I guess what's the harm until your self delusion gets exposed the next time you go off on one!

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              Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
              The strange thing is in the set of circumstances you seem to want to make a stand on I don't think many, if any, disagree with you.

              The nuance bit was that you bring that stark stated train of thought about your moral code to every exchange on here. We all know that's pants, but if you want to believe it then I guess what's the harm until your self delusion gets exposed the next time you go off on one!
              You should have stopped after the first sentence. The rest you have just made up.

              Touch of the "I'm not racist, but..." about several of you tonight. "I don't believe in settling political disputes with bullets, but..."

              I suspect when the dust settles you will view it entirely as I do, which is that it is entirely wrong.

              Why don't you tell me when I have ever been inconsistent on matters like this. I am frequently calling out people on here for political hatred. I am very consistent in making that argument.

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                Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                You should have stopped after the first sentence. The rest you have just made up.

                Touch of the "I'm not racist, but..." about several of you tonight. "I don't believe in settling political disputes with bullets, but..."

                I suspect when the dust settles you will view it entirely as I do, which is that it is entirely wrong.

                Why don't you tell me when I have ever been inconsistent on matters like this. I am frequently calling out people on here for political hatred. I am very consistent in making that argument.
                James,

                I know it's been a long day for you but the 2nd para is gibberish.

                Regardless of the Trump stuff you stated "My moral code doesn't take into account whether someone has my political views or not." We all know that's bullshit but if you want to go to bed and have a good night's sleep believing it then I don't think anyone will get in your way!

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                  Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                  James,

                  I know it's been a long day for you but the 2nd para is gibberish.

                  Regardless of the Trump stuff you stated "My moral code doesn't take into account whether someone has my political views or not." We all know that's bullshit but if you want to go to bed and have a good night's sleep believing it then I don't think anyone will get in your way!
                  Cyril,

                  It's not bullshit. Prove it. I'm saying many of you have a different opinion on political violence depending on who is involved. The evidence for that is in the thread above.

                  I have never ever expressed violent language towards anyone based on their political belief here, or in real life. Ever. So, no. It's not bullshit. I think the views expressed by some on here in the light of an attempted assassination are shameful tbh.

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                    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                    Cyril,

                    It's not bullshit. Prove it. I'm saying many of you have a different opinion on political violence depending on who is involved. The evidence for that is in the thread above.

                    I have never ever expressed violent language towards anyone based on their political belief here, or in real life. Ever. So, no. It's not bullshit. I think the views expressed by some on here in the light of an attempted assassination are shameful tbh.
                    It's like you are anchored to a rock.

                    You made a simple stark statement.

                    "My moral code doesn't take into account whether someone has my political views or not."

                    Any rational person who has seen your posts would consider that a risible statement. You project morality from a corner not balanced on a see-saw.

                    You seem to think that your responses to the Trump assassination attempt validate that statement. It may do, it's just the hundreds of other posts on a multitude of subjects that don't!

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                      Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                      It's like you are anchored to a rock.

                      You made a simple stark statement.

                      "My moral code doesn't take into account whether someone has my political views or not."

                      Any rational person who has seen your posts would consider that a risible statement. You project morality from a corner not balanced on a see-saw.

                      You seem to think that your responses to the Trump assassination attempt validate that statement. It may do, it's just the hundreds of other posts on a multitude of subjects that don't!
                      So point them out. Because I think the people on here who accuse me of a lack of balance are the exact people incapable of it themselves - yourself perhaps included? If you had any objectivity on it you wouldn't be calling me out on this, you would be doing so to others.

                      And yes, I am anchored to a rock that political violence and violent language is wrong. Your best observation yet!

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                        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                        So point them out. Because I think the people on here who accuse me of a lack of balance are the exact people incapable of it themselves - yourself perhaps included? If you had any objectivity on it you wouldn't be calling me out on this, you would be doing so to others.

                        And yes, I am anchored to a rock that political violence and violent language is wrong. Your best observation yet!
                        Christ the feeling of importance and superiority your ego has is incredible

                        You are not writing important articles in newspapers or presenting cutting edge journalism

                        You are arguing the right wing big words cobblers with 200 people on a football messageboard

                        Not that many people are interested in your moral codes which you are always reminding us about

                        You been battered all day on here

                        Your intelligent hemisphere is saying please naff off to bed , your ego side is fighting like ferrets in a plastic bag

                        You want the world to listen ......but in space no one can hear you scream 😱

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                          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                          Christ the feeling of importance and superiority your ego has is incredible

                          You are not writing important articles in newspapers or presenting cutting edge journalism

                          You are arguing the right wing big words cobblers with 200 people on a football messageboard

                          Not that many people are interested in your moral codes which you are always reminding us about

                          You been battered all day on here

                          Your intelligent hemisphere is saying please naff off to bed , your ego side is fighting like ferrets in a plastic bag

                          You want the world to listen ......but in space no one can hear you scream 😱
                          Importance? Nah. I'm just defending what is right.

                          Right wing? You fkn toddler🤣 I totally agree with what Keir Starmer said on it!

                          What part of that do you disagree with?

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                          • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                            Importance? Nah. I'm just defending what is right.

                            Right wing? You fkn toddler🤣 I totally agree with what Keir Starmer said on it!

                            What part of that do you disagree with?
                            Jimbo, It's bedtime. You are trying to show off by claiming some sort of faux superiority which you do not possess.

                            Rational people know ALL violence is wrong everywhere and all the time, regardless of circumstance.

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                              Originally posted by az city View Post
                              Jimbo, It's bedtime. You are trying to show off by claiming some sort of faux superiority which you do not possess.

                              Rational people know ALL violence is wrong everywhere and all the time, regardless of circumstance.
                              Which is exactly the point I have been making on this thread, but which several people have failed to agree to, and I think it's fair enough to argue against that.

                              Thank you. A good place to end the day. All violence is wrong, everywhere and all the time, regardless of circumstance. I entirely agree 👍

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                              • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                                Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                                You should have stopped after the first sentence. The rest you have just made up.

                                Touch of the "I'm not racist, but..." about several of you tonight. "I don't believe in settling political disputes with bullets, but..."

                                I suspect when the dust settles you will view it entirely as I do, which is that it is entirely wrong.

                                Why don't you tell me when I have ever been inconsistent on matters like this. I am frequently calling out people on here for political hatred. I am very consistent in making that argument.
                                🤣

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