The Donald Trump thread

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Not necessarily. They more or less had it a few years ago with Yanokovych

The situation is very different now. Much of the Ukranian population is more embittered than then.

[JamesWales]

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The situation is very different now. Much of the Ukranian population is more embittered than then.

Yeah I agree. But I still think Russia would be happy with that as opposed to annexing the entire country

It goes without saying that both are entirely unreasonable expectations.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Yeah I agree. But I still think Russia would be happy with that as opposed to annexing the entire country

It goes without saying that both are entirely unreasonable expectations.

They may very well want to secure a route into its puppet pseudo-state Transnistria, which has become more isolated since the war. Ukraine closed its border to it since the war started and Moldova is aligning itself more with the West.
(A couple of years before the war started I travelled through Moldova to Transnistria and then to Odessa and Kiev in The Ukraine, where I stayed with local people).

[JamesWales]

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They may very well want to secure a route into its puppet pseudo-state Transnistria, which has become more isolated since the war. Ukraine closed its border to it since the war started and Moldova is aligning itself more with the West.
(A couple of years before the war started I travelled through Moldova to Transnistria and then to Odessa and Kiev in The Ukraine, where I stayed with local people).

Oh that is very interesting. I am aware of the place. Long elongated shape, a hammer and sickle on that flag I believe, and a decent club side in Sheriff Tiraspol.

Why is is more aligned to Russia and views itself so differently to Moldova, which is such a small place in itself?

[Wales-Bales]

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Trump talks the talk but when it comes down to it, the USA needs wars. It's in its capitalist DNA. Trump is a 'put America first' guy. That means death and destruction as long as it isn't on USA soil of course. That means sucking up to the massive arms lobbyists. Basically, it means I don't trust anybody who buys into any of it.

Hold on, there weren't any major wars under Trump. The US got rid of a few bad people here and there but that was about it.

[jon1959]

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Hold on, there weren't any major wars under Trump. The US got rid of a few bad people here and there but that was about it.

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2021/01/20/trump-the-anti-war-president-was-always-a-myth/

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Oh that is very interesting. I am aware of the place. Long elongated shape, a hammer and sickle on that flag I believe, and a decent club side in Sheriff Tiraspol.

Why is is more aligned to Russia and views itself so differently to Moldova, which is such a small place in itself?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria

Russia also has its fingers in the pie in Georgia, Ossetia and Abkhazia being off-limits to the respective national governments.

[TWGL1]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria

Russia also has its fingers in the pie in Georgia, Ossetia and Abkhazia being off-limits to the respective national governments.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner

[stevo]

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They may very well want to secure a route into its puppet pseudo-state Transnistria, which has become more isolated since the war. Ukraine closed its border to it since the war started and Moldova is aligning itself more with the West.
(A couple of years before the war started I travelled through Moldova to Transnistria and then to Odessa and Kiev in The Ukraine, where I stayed with local people).

It’s Ukraine - not The Ukraine and someone as well travelled as you ought to know better. Referring them as The Ukraine is an insult to the Ukrainians. The Russians will love you for it though.

[Packerman]

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He said he travelled to Odessa and Kiev in the Ukraine they are in the Ukraine. Doh

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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It’s Ukraine - not The Ukraine and someone as well travelled as you ought to know better. Referring them as The Ukraine is an insult to the Ukrainians. The Russians will love you for it though.

To be honest, I wasn't aware of the disapproval of the definite article in respect of Ukraine these days. Point taken.

[Wales-Bales]

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What's this clown up to now?

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112839019570744178

[jon1959]

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What's this clown up to now?

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...39019570744178

Peddling his so-called peace plan again it seems.

Jared Kushner will be standing just behind the throne whispering in his ear.

The Peace Plan was for Israel to continue to occupy Palestinian land, expel Palestinians from Jerusalem, and to be exempt from international law. A tiny Palestinian statelet would be created - of bantustans surrounded by Israeli walls, roads, settlers and soldiers. The fragmented and isolated Palestinians would be allowed to earn a few dollars by working in a new series of Trump-owned tourist complexes (maybe another Trump Tower too) along the destroyed strip formerly known as Gaza!

I think that's what the clown is up to now.

[Wales-Bales]

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Peddling his so-called peace plan again it seems.

Jared Kushner will be standing just behind the throne whispering in his ear.

The Peace Plan was for Israel to continue to occupy Palestinian land, expel Palestinians from Jerusalem, and to be exempt from international law. A tiny Palestinian statelet would be created - of bantustans surrounded by Israeli walls, roads, settlers and soldiers. The fragmented and isolated Palestinians would be allowed to earn a few dollars by working in a new series of Trump-owned tourist complexes (maybe another Trump Tower too) along the destroyed strip formerly known as Gaza!

I think that's what the clown is up to now.

I can't see Mahmoud agreeing to that!