The Donald Trump thread

[stevo]

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And if this isn't enough, Labour and the Tories before then have covered up and protected the rape gangs with one of his MP's describing it as a dog whistle, to be clear you and your squad voted for this, I never and never ever ever ever will for as long as i can breathe. Just because you want me to have voted Tory to give yourself some comfort doesn't mean it true. So live with your guilt of Starmer and own it.

Yet you appear to support Trump?

[Heathblue]

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Yet you appear to support Trump?

Appearances can be deceptive, Stevo. I dislike the whole lot of them—hate might be too strong a word, though I do use it occasionally. Generally, I prefer love over hate. I noticed in a post above that RJK implied, as I don't vote, my voice shouldn't be heard (or words to that effect).
Looking ahead to the next election: we might have Starmer, possibly Badenoch (though I suspect she'll be side-lined), and then the so-called knight in shining Armor—Farage, the new people's champion. What, if anything, about this trio would motivate you to leave your house, walk 400 yards to a polling station, and mark an X on a ballot paper? Can you really spot a meaningful difference between them that would earn your vote?
Politics, in my lifetime, (allegedly) has always been corrupt. We used to tolerate it—brown envelopes for local councilors, a few backdoor deals at the national level—because it felt relatively minor. When I moved to my current home, the Lord Mayor of Cardiff lived directly across the road. He took neighbors to the Mansion House for a night out—food, drinks, a bit of goodwill. I don’t know what went on behind closed doors, but he seemed to live like the people he represented: just an average Joe.
That era is gone. Today, we have career politicians chasing influence, not serving the public. The brown envelopes have been replaced by multi-million-pound contracts handed to friends. COVID just made the corruption more blatant. I’ve used AI to look into the figures—yes, I picked on a Tory to keep Sludge happy—but for balance, it's a rot that runs throughout parliament.
How can anyone keep voting for these people when it’s just rinse and repeat? I genuinely don’t know what the solution is or how we reclaim any trust in the system. So I choose to abstain.
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Baroness Michelle Mone was not directly "given" money during the COVID-19 pandemic, but she was linked to PPE Medpro, a company led by her husband, Doug Barrowman, which secured UK government contracts worth Ł203 million to supply personal protective equipment (PPE). These contracts were awarded in May and June 2020 through a "VIP lane" after Mone recommended the company to ministers.

Reports indicate that PPE Medpro made approximately Ł60-65 million in profit from these deals, with Ł29 million transferred to an offshore trust (the Keristal Trust), of which Mone and her children were beneficiaries. Mone admitted in 2023 that she stands to benefit from these profits but denied wrongdoing, claiming the contracts were fulfilled to specification. The Department of Health and Social Care has since issued breach of contract proceedings over a Ł122 million deal for surgical gowns, alleging they were unusable. The National Crime Agency is also investigating PPE Medpro for suspected criminal offences related to the contracts.

The Ł203 million figure refers to the total contract value awarded to PPE Medpro, not a direct payment to Mone personally. The exact amount she personally received or stands to receive remains unclear due to the trust structure and ongoing investigations.

[JamesWales]

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Yet you appear to support Trump?

So what if he does anyway?

[stevo]

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So what if he does anyway?

Err, because he’s a sex offender?

[Wales-Bales]

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Yet you appear to support Trump?

Is that the bloke who is best buddies with the Labour Party leader?

[stevo]

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Is that the bloke who is best buddies with the Labour Party leader?

Hardly buddies but I’ve got no love for either

[Wales-Bales]

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Hardly buddies but I’ve got no love for either

Get yer sick bag ready!

[Eric Cartman]

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If no one voted nobody would be elected. You really need to brush up on your logic skills

I don't think that is what happens, candidates draw lots to determine the winner if nobody votes.

[Wales-Bales]

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I don't think that is what happens, candidates draw lots to determine the winner if nobody votes.

They wouldn't be elected, they would be appointed by themselves, i.e. a totalitarian dictatorship

[jon1959]

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They wouldn't be elected, they would be appointed by themselves, i.e. a totalitarian dictatorship

No. In that situation the electorate would have made a collective decision (non voting is also a conscious choice where the consequences are clear to all) that they want to be governed on the basis of chance.

That is not a totalitarian dictatorship, it is an act of plain stupidity, laziness and an abrogation of responsibility by the people.

Because even if you buy in to the UniParty stuff there are always some differences of policy, personality, of influence and interests. The differences may sometimes (but not all times) be marginal - but acting like a smug tosser and enabling the worst version to exercise governmental power will almost certainly bring more pain and suffering where it could have been avoided or reduced.

[the other bob wilson]

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Gluey should form the jeering from the sidelines smugly telling everyone how stupid they are party - not sure he’d want anyone to vote for him mind.

[Wales-Bales]

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Wow, lot's of people getting their snickers in a tryst over hypothetical scenarios. I'd hazzard a guess and say those with any smarties have already mapped out their unpleasantry avoidance strategies.

[delmbox]

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Wow, lot's of people getting their snickers in a tryst over hypothetical scenarios. I'd hazzard a guess and say those with any smarties have already mapped out their unpleasantry avoidance strategies.

they probably know how to spell hazard too

[Wales-Bales]

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they probably know how to spell hazard too

My musings are also IQ tests to keep myself amused.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Gluey should form the jeering from the sidelines smugly telling everyone how stupid they are party - not sure he’d want anyone to vote for him mind.

Think you are underestimating the electorate, Bob. If it was one CCMB User Id - one vote you may be surprised with both the turnout and voter intentions!