The Donald Trump thread

[jon1959]

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My musings are also IQ tests to keep myself amused.

Come on Gluey - you are way too old to be having a smutty giggle about a score of 69!

[stevo]

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Appearances can be deceptive, Stevo. I dislike the whole lot of them—hate might be too strong a word, though I do use it occasionally. Generally, I prefer love over hate. I noticed in a post above that RJK implied, as I don't vote, my voice shouldn't be heard (or words to that effect).
Looking ahead to the next election: we might have Starmer, possibly Badenoch (though I suspect she'll be side-lined), and then the so-called knight in shining Armor—Farage, the new people's champion. What, if anything, about this trio would motivate you to leave your house, walk 400 yards to a polling station, and mark an X on a ballot paper? Can you really spot a meaningful difference between them that would earn your vote?
Politics, in my lifetime, (allegedly) has always been corrupt. We used to tolerate it—brown envelopes for local councilors, a few backdoor deals at the national level—because it felt relatively minor. When I moved to my current home, the Lord Mayor of Cardiff lived directly across the road. He took neighbors to the Mansion House for a night out—food, drinks, a bit of goodwill. I don’t know what went on behind closed doors, but he seemed to live like the people he represented: just an average Joe.
That era is gone. Today, we have career politicians chasing influence, not serving the public. The brown envelopes have been replaced by multi-million-pound contracts handed to friends. COVID just made the corruption more blatant. I’ve used AI to look into the figures—yes, I picked on a Tory to keep Sludge happy—but for balance, it's a rot that runs throughout parliament.
How can anyone keep voting for these people when it’s just rinse and repeat? I genuinely don’t know what the solution is or how we reclaim any trust in the system. So I choose to abstain.
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Baroness Michelle Mone was not directly "given" money during the COVID-19 pandemic, but she was linked to PPE Medpro, a company led by her husband, Doug Barrowman, which secured UK government contracts worth Ł203 million to supply personal protective equipment (PPE). These contracts were awarded in May and June 2020 through a "VIP lane" after Mone recommended the company to ministers.

Reports indicate that PPE Medpro made approximately Ł60-65 million in profit from these deals, with Ł29 million transferred to an offshore trust (the Keristal Trust), of which Mone and her children were beneficiaries. Mone admitted in 2023 that she stands to benefit from these profits but denied wrongdoing, claiming the contracts were fulfilled to specification. The Department of Health and Social Care has since issued breach of contract proceedings over a Ł122 million deal for surgical gowns, alleging they were unusable. The National Crime Agency is also investigating PPE Medpro for suspected criminal offences related to the contracts.

The Ł203 million figure refers to the total contract value awarded to PPE Medpro, not a direct payment to Mone personally. The exact amount she personally received or stands to receive remains unclear due to the trust structure and ongoing investigations.

So, it seems we're both as anti-establishment as each other then? Cool. Trump was marketed as the anti-establishment choice, but he's worse than any of the others.

But I've always voted. I usually find an independent candidate to vote for that says all the right things. I know they won't win, but at least I can't be accused of complaining and not voting.

Don't get me started on that Baroness Mone case. Utterly despicable.

[lardy]

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Just popping in to see if the CCMB massive have an opinion on Trump being gifted a $400m 747 from Qatar which the US government will pay to retrofit before he takes it into his "presidential library".

And to my great surprise, no!

[the other bob wilson]

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Just popping in to see if the CCMB massive have an opinion on Trump being gifted a $400m 747 from Qatar which the US government will pay to retrofit before he takes it into his "presidential library".

And to my great surprise, no!

John Stewart has.

[Wales-Bales]

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John Stewart has.

JS saying what you want to hear shocker

[stevo]

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JS saying what you want to hear shocker

What's your take on it then?

[Heathblue]

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Just popping in to see if the CCMB massive have an opinion on Trump being gifted a $400m 747 from Qatar which the US government will pay to retrofit before he takes it into his "presidential library".

And to my great surprise, no!

Jumbo jet for squat, art of the deal Shirley? ,🤣🤣🤣 a lot of his own pushing back on this one, you can relax now 👍

[jon1959]

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Jumbo jet for squat, art of the deal Shirley? ,🤣🤣🤣 a lot of his own pushing back on this one, you can relax now 👍

It isn’t for squat. It is a cheap way for the Saudis to get the man-child to tick all their boxes. Mind you the Trump portrait that Putin has just delivered is an even cheaper way to stroke Trump’s ego and scoop the political (and financial) benefits.

It is almost as if they have all read ‘The Art Of The Deal’ and worked out how to play the egotistical clown.

[JamesWales]

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Trump doesn't get on with foreign leaders - he's an all powerful divisive extremist!

Trump gets on with foreign leaders - he's a clown being led!

Never any good news is there?! 🤦

[Heathblue]

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It isn’t for squat. It is a cheap way for the Saudis to get the man-child to tick all their boxes. Mind you the Trump portrait that Putin has just delivered is an even cheaper way to stroke Trump’s ego and scoop the political (and financial) benefits.

It is almost as if they have all read ‘The Art Of The Deal’ and worked out how to play the egotistical clown.

Kin ell Jon, i can bin twitter now,

[Wales-Bales]

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Kin ell Jon, i can bin twitter now,

The message board that keeps on giving

[Wales-Bales]

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I've have it on good authority that Trump scoffed some free canapes and a Diet Coke just minutes after leaving the stage

[Heathblue]

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I've have it on good authority that Trump scoffed some free canapes and a Diet Coke just minutes after leaving the stage

Saving Israel for last
"Q"

[lardy]

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Jumbo jet for squat, art of the deal Shirley? ,������ a lot of his own pushing back on this one, you can relax now ��

I remember the CCMB massive being very unrelaxed at Hunter's laptop. Not so many smiley faces when that was being discussed endlessly!

The Biden crime family, that's what the CCMB massive called it. They used to get really worked up, solid blocks of text with no paragraphs, but are ever so quiet now.

[lardy]

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Trump doesn't get on with foreign leaders - he's an all powerful divisive extremist!

Trump gets on with foreign leaders - he's a clown being led!

Never any good news is there?! ��