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  • Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Originally posted by Trigger View Post
    I don't think it's Trump dialling it back, Russia already invaded Ukraine.

    From my understanding Venezuela have long been cosying up to the Chinese and Russians and so similar to Russia's invasion this is about spheres of influence, the big players trying to control their immediate surroundings and sending a message.

    Political leaders will make noise of international law and sovereignty but unless you are able to enforce or defend it it's all for nothing.

    What I would say is unlike the rather messy, cumbersome approach of the past and Russia's own attempts in Ukraine, this seems to have been extremely well planned and rather "clean".
    It's a dubious honour in having better invaded another sovereign state than another invader - and the long-term ramifications are yet to unfurl.

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      Originally posted by goats View Post
      China will be moving in very soon on this now no doubt, almost a green light. Putin doesn’t like Ukraines president, ok to take him out too then? I’m surprised it hasn’t kicked off in the democrat cities of the USA yet, how much longer are they going to put up with this government running the show?
      I'm sure Trump would love to have an insurrection taking place on home soil, he would be in his element.

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        The situation whereby the world's superpowers, oil states and oligarchs (whether the latter be Russian, US-based or otherwise) are carving up the world simply reminds me how ludicrous the WEF conspiracy theorists have been on this message board over the years.

        It was such a laughable concept that old men across the global political divides would profit from destroying the world's economy but at least two extremely frequent posters swallowed it whole.

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        • Re: The Donald Trump thread

          Originally posted by Trigger View Post
          I don't think it's Trump dialling it back, Russia already invaded Ukraine.

          From my understanding Venezuela have long been cosying up to the Chinese and Russians and so similar to Russia's invasion this is about spheres of influence, the big players trying to control their immediate surroundings and sending a message.

          Political leaders will make noise of international law and sovereignty but unless you are able to enforce or defend it it's all for nothing.

          What I would say is unlike the rather messy, cumbersome approach of the past and Russia's own attempts in Ukraine, this seems to have been extremely well planned and rather "clean".
          Russia invaded Ukraine, and they have faced sanctions ever since (well the second time). So it clearly wasn't considered a legitimate course of action at the time.

          America has done it now and are seemingly saying it's fine for bigger countries to impose their will on weaker neighbours.

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          • Re: The Donald Trump thread

            Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
            I'm sure Trump would love to have an insurrection taking place on home soil, he would be in his element.
            Yep he no doubt send in special forces….

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            • Re: The Donald Trump thread

              Originally posted by Trigger View Post
              What I would say is unlike the rather messy, cumbersome approach of the past and Russia's own attempts in Ukraine, this seems to have been extremely well planned and rather "clean".
              The 80 people that died and their families would probably disagree with your definition of clean

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              • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                The situation whereby the world's superpowers, oil states and oligarchs (whether the latter be Russian, US-based or otherwise) are carving up the world simply reminds me how ludicrous the WEF conspiracy theorists have been on this message board over the years.

                It was such a laughable concept that old men across the global political divides would profit from destroying the world's economy but at least two extremely frequent posters swallowed it whole.
                The WEF lost influence when Kamala failed to win, ditto the EU globalists. We are now living in interesting times as they say.

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                • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                  Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                  The situation whereby the world's superpowers, oil states and oligarchs (whether the latter be Russian, US-based or otherwise) are carving up the world simply reminds me how ludicrous the WEF conspiracy theorists have been on this message board over the years.

                  It was such a laughable concept that old men across the global political divides would profit from destroying the world's economy but at least two extremely frequent posters swallowed it whole.
                  Amazing isn't it. After spewing out years of hogwash that The Great Reset was unstoppable because of the all powerful hidden forces it appears that the line is now that Davos gang were so impotent that they couldn't even fix an election won by a couple of hundred thousand votes in some swing states.

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                    Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                    The WEF lost influence when Kamala failed to win, ditto the EU globalists. We are now living in interesting times as they say.
                    So the people who, according to you lot, fixed the 2020 election decided not to bother in 2024?

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                    • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                      So the people who, according to you lot, fixed the 2020 election decided not to bother in 2024?
                      It was a totally different ground game.

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                      • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                        Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                        It was a totally different ground game.

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                            Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                            Now ain't that the truth.... brilliant!!!

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                              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                              ‘The FIFA Peace Prize hanging round his neck like a Jim’ll Fix It badge’…. Fantastic!

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                              • Re: The Donald Trump thread

                                Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                                ‘The FIFA Peace Prize hanging round his neck like a Jim’ll Fix It badge’…. Fantastic!
                                The left have the best comedians

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