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  • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

    Originally posted by life on mars View Post
    There is so much blind loyalty and hatred involved as well where voters cannot see the same hypocrisy in all the parties , if you consider the latest events if partygate , non doms, second job , expense gate , sexual harrasment, drug taking ' drink offences ,bullying , influence money from Russians or China , jail terms for sitting MP's , cozy jobs for family, racism , it stinks .

    They all stink , they all have money and clever accounting and double standards, climb a poll through some form of influence or support mechanisms yes even Labour, just because one might be red or blue doesn't differentuate .

    The only difference if your in power your in the spotlight you get it first .

    I'm sure the opposition turn is coming once sucess is upon them ??
    None of that, true or untrue, is a good reason to think that the Prime Minister should break the law and continue in office (which judging by your posts in this thread and others, I assume to be your position).

    Taking your point as written, 'they are all the same'. Well, I don't think that stands up to scrutiny. Starmer can be accused of being wet, boring, non-charismatic, but he has more integrity in his little finger than Boris' whole being is capable of displaying. All parties have problems, but they aren't all led by the problem.

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    • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

      Originally posted by life on mars View Post
      There is so much blind loyalty and hatred involved as well where voters cannot see the same hypocrisy in all the parties , if you consider the latest events if partygate , non doms, second job , expense gate , sexual harrasment, drug taking ' drink offences ,bullying , influence money from Russians or China , jail terms for sitting MP's , cozy jobs for family, racism , it stinks .

      They all stink , they all have money and clever accounting and double standards, climb a poll through some form of influence or support mechanisms yes even Labour, just because one might be red or blue doesn't differentuate .

      The only difference if your in power your in the spotlight you get it first .

      I'm sure the opposition turn is coming once sucess is upon them ??

      For me Boris is a Killer Queen :

      He keeps his Moet et Chandon
      In his pretty cabinet
      "Let them eat cake", he says
      Just like Marie Antoinette
      A built-in remedy
      For Khrushchev and Kennedy ( now Putin )
      At anytime an invitation
      You can't decline
      … Caviar and cigarettes
      Well versed in etiquette
      Extraordinarily cheeky

      He's a Killer Queen
      Gunpowder, gelatine
      Dynamite with a laser beam
      Guaranteed to blow your mind
      Anytime

      The thing is.. many young people myself included view Tony Blair as Tory light, the same can be said with Keir Starmer.

      Can you start to see the problem?

      I just want a government that isn't controlled by the mega wealthy.

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      • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

        Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
        Right to the heart of the matter again I see - how did we cope on here while the know everything about everything crew were off licking their wounds?
        There's no point in trying to make it personal as the wheels are already in motion. This affects everybody, their kids & their grandkids, and I'd rather be wrong than miscalculate.

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        • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

          Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
          There's no point in trying to make it personal as the wheels are already in motion. This affects everybody, their kids & their grandkids, and I'd rather be wrong than miscalculate.
          Some people think miscalculating means you are wrong. Sheeple probably!

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          • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

            Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
            What I don’t get is that he was seriously Ill with Covid not long before
            True, but I guess the difference is, he didn't arrange or organize the party, just attended. Should have told them all to bugger off but probably thought 'what the hell..'. Personally I'd prefer BJ wasn't PM, but for other reasons, not for having a piece of cake.

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            • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

              Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
              True, but I guess the difference is, he didn't arrange or organize the party, just attended. Should have told them all to bugger off but probably thought 'what the hell..'. Personally I'd prefer BJ wasn't PM, but for other reasons, not for having a piece of cake.
              I wonder what the excuse will be for the next fixed penalty notice he receives?

              Will it be for attending another party that he told parliament he was "furious" to hear about?

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              • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

                I wouldn't expect Boris to resign, he's perfectly entitled as an individual to decide that he believes an apology is enough. I would however expect the tory mp's to show some courage and say enough is enough, and send in the letters. I think it's pretty shameful they haven't done so

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                • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

                  Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                  True, but I guess the difference is, he didn't arrange or organize the party, just attended. Should have told them all to bugger off but probably thought 'what the hell..'. Personally I'd prefer BJ wasn't PM, but for other reasons, not for having a piece of cake.
                  A message sent to Tom Pick @The Indie

                  I didn't have a birthday party for my 50th. My partner had died in the first week of lockdown. Instead, my friend came and left a cake on my doorstep. She stood 2 metres away while I cried. She couldn't comfort me. I had to cry alone and she had to watch and feel helpless

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                  • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

                    Boris is not going to resign , he just doesn't have the moral compass to actually give a rats ass.
                    the only way he would go is of he becomes toxic enough to voters for the Tories to kick him out in fear of their seats.

                    the issue now is the Tories would find it hard to kick out Boris over this without also kicking out the obvious successor in Sunak - and NOBODY else in the Tory party is polling well AT ALL

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                    • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

                      Originally posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
                      I wouldn't expect Boris to resign, he's perfectly entitled as an individual to decide that he believes an apology is enough. I would however expect the tory mp's to show some courage and say enough is enough, and send in the letters. I think it's pretty shameful they haven't done so
                      I wouldn't expect him to resign for lying to parliament either, although that is what anyone who lies is supposed to do.

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                      • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

                        The outpouring of criticism is justified should he resign for a penalty notice no .

                        There's quite a few worse offenders out there who probably broke self isolation rules resulting in someone becoming very unwell and potentially dying .

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                        • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

                          Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                          The outpouring of criticism is justified should he resign for a penalty notice no .

                          There's quite a few worse offenders out there who probably broke self isolation rules resulting in someone becoming very unwell and potentially dying .
                          But he’s in charge of the country. He has to be squeaky clean.

                          Should a person lose their job for kissing a 16 year old? Probably not. Should a teacher? Absolutely.

                          As Chris Rock said sometimes in certain walks of life you can’t have a few bad apples.

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                          • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

                            Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                            The outpouring of criticism is justified should he resign for a penalty notice no .

                            There's quite a few worse offenders out there who probably broke self isolation rules resulting in someone becoming very unwell and potentially dying .
                            You're correct - he shouldn't resign for receiving a penalty notice.

                            There's no way of knowing either if anyone became seriously ill or died after a chain of covid infections potentially linked back to one of the parties held at Downing Street. That's not the point though.

                            What he should do though is resign because he lied in Parliament about it.

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                              • Re: BreakTheLaw Boris

                                Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                                The outpouring of criticism is justified should he resign for a penalty notice no .

                                There's quite a few worse offenders out there who probably broke self isolation rules resulting in someone becoming very unwell and potentially dying .
                                How do you know that he didn’t have COVID when he attended all the piss ups, and how do you know that he didn’t pass it on to someone who later died? After all that’s why “HIS” COVID laws were in place, to stop the spread and save lives. The COVID laws that he continually broke.

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