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  • #46
    Re: FAO Organ Morgan and co

    I didn't answer your Russia question as I viewed it as a deliberate distraction to the discussion at hand. But for what it's worth, I believe the so-called Cold War was another hoax. Russia and USA spent over 40 years sabre rattling while their troops never fired a single bullet in their arch-enemy's direction. The mutual bogeyman threat served to keep both their populations in fear while the connected got rich off of building nukes and tons of other armaments.

    Eisenhower knew what the game was. Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech Origins and Significance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jvHynP9Y

    As for your other query. How We Lost The Ability To Travel To The Moon - https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2...h=2abbf7bb1f48

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    • #47
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      Originally posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
      I didn't answer your Russia question as I viewed it as a deliberate distraction to the discussion at hand. But for what it's worth, I believe the so-called Cold War was another hoax. Russia and USA spent over 40 years sabre rattling while their troops never fired a single bullet in their arch-enemy's direction. The mutual bogeyman threat served to keep both their populations in fear while the connected got rich off of building nukes and tons of other armaments.

      Eisenhower knew what the game was. Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech Origins and Significance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jvHynP9Y

      As for your other query. How We Lost The Ability To Travel To The Moon - https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2...h=2abbf7bb1f48
      If it suited them both so well, why did they end it?

      Oh, let me guess. The ending is a hoax and the hoax Cold War is still going on.

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      • #48
        Re: FAO Organ Morgan and co

        Originally posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
        I didn't answer your Russia question as I viewed it as a deliberate distraction to the discussion at hand. But for what it's worth, I believe the so-called Cold War was another hoax. Russia and USA spent over 40 years sabre rattling while their troops never fired a single bullet in their arch-enemy's direction. The mutual bogeyman threat served to keep both their populations in fear while the connected got rich off of building nukes and tons of other armaments.

        Eisenhower knew what the game was. Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech Origins and Significance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jvHynP9Y

        As for your other query. How We Lost The Ability To Travel To The Moon - https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2...h=2abbf7bb1f48
        The latter link isn't inconsistent with the new project being built on newer technology as the article does refer to the complications and drawbacks of merely tweaking existing designs and the need to sometimes start from scratch again. However, you now seem to suggest that the Russians and Americans were involved in a 40-year-old conspiracy (which provided me with a 40-year career in the MoD, so I can't complain).
        Do you have a matrix of the various conspiracies you believe in/discuss/promote etc? I get confused with the Bilderbergers, The Illuminati, The US-Russia conspiracy, the Great Reset, The Chinese Covid conspiracy, the global vax conspiracy etc etc etc. Are they all lnked and part of the same thing or how do you reconcile one against the other, old fruit?

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        • #49
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          Originally posted by lardy View Post
          If it suited them both so well, why did they end it?

          Oh, let me guess. The ending is a hoax and the hoax Cold War is still going on.
          If you would take my advice to enrol on a critical thinking course then you may be able to answer your questions without my help.

          I recall Putin visiting the scene of where three towers fell in 2001. He, with a straight face, blamed "terrorists." You know, a gaggle of blokes with huge beards armed with Stanley knives. Nowt to do with those Mossad agents, the 'Dancing Israelis', who also happened to be demolition experts.

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          • #50
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            Originally posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
            If you would take my advice to enrol on a critical thinking course then you may be able to answer your questions without my help.

            I recall Putin visiting the scene of where three towers fell in 2001. He, with a straight face, blamed "terrorists." You know, a gaggle of blokes with huge beards armed with Stanley knives. Nowt to do with those Mossad agents, the 'Dancing Israelis', who also happened to be demolition experts.
            But I'm very stupid, you tell me that weekly. Can't you tell me why they ended the so-called Cold War that was so profitable for them both? I'm definitely too stupid to work this out for myself. Don't go trying to confuse me with 9/11, it's almost like you're changing the subject!

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            • #51
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              Originally posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
              That was a rebuttal?

              Where's your evidence that any state has sent a man farther than 400 miles away during the past five decades? It should be easy-peasy to provide some.

              I'm sure Cyril and a few others have desperately searched for evidence that the Chinese, Indians, Russians, The European Space Agency or some other country has in order to refute my assertion but they have failed to find any because none exists.

              Again, it was somehow possible between 1969 to 1972 to send man 240 thousand miles to the Moon (that's six hundred times farther than 400 miles) but it's proved impossible to get someone as little as 500 miles ever since?
              It’s pretty obvious why nobody has bothered sending anyone much further out into space, unless you’re going to the moon Or another celestial body there’s nothing there. Surely anything you can do 10000 km into space you could also do 400km into space?

              And they haven’t been back to the moon because there hasn’t been a good reason to. Robots can do a lot more these days and it’s very expensive to go there

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              • #52
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                Originally posted by Rjk View Post
                It’s pretty obvious why nobody has bothered sending anyone much further out into space, unless you’re going to the moon Or another celestial body there’s nothing there. Surely anything you can do 10000 km into space you could also do 400km into space?

                And they haven’t been back to the moon because there hasn’t been a good reason to. Robots can do a lot more these days and [COLOR="#000000"]it’s very expensive to go there[/COLOR]
                I don’t think money has anything to do with it.

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                • #53
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                  Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                  I don’t think money has anything to do with it.
                  That would be a first in the US.

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                  • #54
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                    Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                    I don’t think money has anything to do with it.
                    really? well the sums involved are - if you'll forgive the pun - astronomical.
                    NASAs budget during the apollo program was about 4% of the federal budget, these days it is around 0.5%

                    If it isn't anything to do with budget then what do you think it is about?

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                    • #55
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                      Just googled an article, albeit 2018 , NASA doesn't occupy a large portion of the federal budget at all, clocking in at a 0.4% of the 2018 budget. Even then, it's not like the money that goes into NASA is being wasted. Each dollar that goes into NASA adds $7-14 to the economy.

                      Anybody seen the Wiki-Leaks article on the moon landings , it’s quite interesting.

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                      • #56
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                        Originally posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
                        If you would take my advice to enrol on a critical thinking course then you may be able to answer your questions without my help.

                        I recall Putin visiting the scene of where three towers fell in 2001. He, with a straight face, blamed "terrorists." You know, a gaggle of blokes with huge beards armed with Stanley knives. Nowt to do with those Mossad agents, the 'Dancing Israelis', who also happened to be demolition experts.
                        Was Corbyn there ?

                        He is keen on attending memorials with bearded fellas .

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                        • #57
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                          Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                          Just googled an article, albeit 2018 , NASA doesn't occupy a large portion of the federal budget at all, clocking in at a 0.4% of the 2018 budget. Even then, it's not like the money that goes into NASA is being wasted. Each dollar that goes into NASA adds $7-14 to the economy.

                          Anybody seen the Wiki-Leaks article on the moon landings , it’s quite interesting.
                          Is the Wikileaks article concerned unrelated to what is referred to here? :

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                          • #58
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                            Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                            Is the Wikileaks article concerned unrelated to what is referred to here? :

                            https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/f...ge/9217263002/
                            Not that one. The one where a lot of the space walks etc are filmed under water to replicate zero gravity.

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                            • #59
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                              Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                              Not that one. The one where a lot of the space walks etc are filmed under water to replicate zero gravity.
                              ¿Fuente, por favor?

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                              • #60
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                                Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
                                Not that one. The one where a lot of the space walks etc are filmed under water to replicate zero gravity.
                                Giant steps are what you take, walking in the pool - Sting.

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