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  • #46
    Re: Chaos in Government

    Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
    I doubt there is any principle involved.

    They stayed and enabled Johnson for months and years whilst he behaved in exactly the same way.

    It is down to political calculation. Pincher and the latest round of lies is just the excuse. And the by election results which spooked all wings of their party.

    Three quarters of Tory backbenchers voted against Johnson in the recent ballot. They are about to win total control of the 1922 Committee and change the rules so the confidence vote can be re-run. Johnson will lose and his loyalists will go down with him.

    The Tories are calculating their best chance of winning the next election or limiting the damage. Enough of them now think that means changing the leader and hoping the public have short memories.

    Their problem is there is no obvious alternative. As a non-Tory watching their implosion will be a small compensation for the continuing disaster of this incompetent, lying, corrupt government. The smallest of silver linings!
    They seemed content to defend him whilst he lied to the public.

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    • #47
      Re: Chaos in Government

      Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
      Steve Barclay is the new health secretary.

      I suspect Zahawi will either become chancellor or resign
      The likes of Zahawi haven’t the integrity to resign. Probably negotiating his travelling allowance.

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      • #48
        Re: Chaos in Government

        Surely he can’t survive this……..but I’ve been saying that for over a year.

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        • #49
          Re: Chaos in Government

          Originally posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
          Surely he can’t survive this……..but I’ve been saying that for over a year.
          Even if he doesnt its not going to see an alternative to the facking Tories

          Because starmer and the liberals don't offer one

          A nice safe John major type of tory and its back to the opposition benches

          The labour party is dead in the water with the liberals in the lifeboats picking up scraps

          The opinion polls would be showing huge leads if the tories were on the ropes but it's not happening

          Thoroughly depressing

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          • #50
            Re: Chaos in Government

            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
            Even if he doesnt its not going to see an alternative to the facking Tories

            Because starmer and the liberals don't offer one

            A nice safe John major type of tory and its back to the opposition benches

            The labour party is dead in the water with the liberals in the lifeboats picking up scraps

            The opinion polls would be showing huge leads if the tories were on the ropes but it's not happening

            Thoroughly depressing
            Yes, a depressing inevitability about it sadly.

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            • #51
              Re: Chaos in Government

              Originally posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
              Yes, a depressing inevitability about it sadly.
              It wasn't perfect but we had the chance to install the alternative vote system which was a sort of PR

              But this stupid country couldn't even be bothered to get out of bed to go to the polling booth

              We have what we deserve

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              • #52
                Re: Chaos in Government

                I'm now getting furniture restorers adverts popping up showing how they can repair cabinets 😂
                I'm sorry but I don't think they can fix this one.

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                • #53
                  Re: Chaos in Government

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                  • #54
                    Re: Chaos in Government

                    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                    It wasn't perfect but we had the chance to install the alternative vote system which was a sort of PR

                    But this stupid country couldn't even be bothered to get out of bed to go to the polling booth

                    We have what we deserve
                    To be fair, that av is such a watered down system it rendered the entire referendum dead from the start. Full pr or keep what we got for me.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Chaos in Government

                      Originally posted by bobh View Post
                      I'm no Boris supporter, or even a tory supporter, but something stinks about the way all these leaks and misdemeanors keep coming along.
                      It seems there's a concerted plan to oust BoJo, if he doesn't go now, something else will come out next week.

                      Sleeze getting rid of sleeze?
                      Two things are amazing. It's amazing how when politicians are surfing the wave their sins go completely unnoticed, unreported or glossed over. Nobody leaks because there is no great route to power and even if they do nobody in the press that matters wants to listen.

                      Then when the shine wears off how swiftly those unreported sins come to the surface.

                      The sleazy bits are when politicians like Johnson think they rule all they can see so do what they want. I think it's called hubris!

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                      • #56
                        Re: Chaos in Government

                        Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                        Two things are amazing. It's amazing how when politicians are surfing the wave their sins go completely unnoticed, unreported or glossed over. Nobody leaks because there is no great route to power and even if they do nobody in the press that matters wants to listen.

                        Then when the shine wears off how swiftly those unreported sins come to the surface.

                        The sleazy bits are when politicians like Johnson think they rule all they can see so do what they want. I think it's called hubris!
                        I think it's amazing that the sleaze started virtually from the start of his leadership. Didn't even behave for a bit at the start, just straight on doing what he wants. I'd love to know how much carrie has earned in dodgy deals and nonsense jobs he has got her. Must be millions already

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                        • #57
                          Re: Chaos in Government

                          Nadhim Zahawi upping his credentials for a pop at being leader IMO. Blojo desperate but appointing Zahawi as Chancellor might prove yet another disastrous decision. The clock ticks.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Chaos in Government

                            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                            Even if he doesnt its not going to see an alternative to the facking Tories

                            Because starmer and the liberals don't offer one

                            A nice safe John major type of tory and its back to the opposition benches

                            The labour party is dead in the water with the liberals in the lifeboats picking up scraps

                            The opinion polls would be showing huge leads if the tories were on the ropes but it's not happening

                            Thoroughly depressing
                            This 100%. Will probably vote Plaid at the next GE and I’m not even a Nationalist.

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                            • #59
                              Re: Chaos in Government

                              Nadhim Zahawi as chancellor. It makes, me want to throw up. He along with Patal come over here and tell us we don't need foreign workers. Can't get an holiday abroad because of chaos at the airports. Can't get a bus no drivers. Can't get staff in nursing homes because of piss poor pay What a fcuking shambles.
                              This country is up to its neck in debt. I daresay the chancellor will increase it by borrowing more for tax cuts.

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                              • #60
                                Re: Chaos in Government

                                Originally posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
                                I think it's amazing that the sleaze started virtually from the start of his leadership.
                                I’m fairness, he was elected after driving around the country in a big red bus with a blatant lie plastered all over the sides of it. A large percentage of the general public lapped that crap up, so it’s little wonder that Johnson believed he could get away with anything. And thus far he has.

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