Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Gofer Blue]

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There's a rumour about an announcement on airbridges today that will start at the end of June. Lot's of business trips to the UK as well as holidays.

Why business trips when we have all these video conferencing gizmos? Anyone coming to the UK for a holiday must be slightly unhinged surely, as (a) we now have the highest per capita COVID death rate in the world* and (b) they will need to be quarantined for the first 2 weeks.

(*source: https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-h...20-5?r=US&IR=T)

[Croesy Blue]

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The airbridges deal with (b) they will remove the 14 day quarintine for countries with low covid levels.

I agree people won't be rushing back here that's I assume why flights won't be back up to their normal number for a long time. But things will have to be eased back to normal otherwise the economy is ****ed.

As good as video conferencing is for certain things nothing beats a face to face meeting. Business trips won't be at the same volume they always have been for a while but they won't disappear.

[Gofer Blue]

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The airbridges deal with (b) they will remove the 14 day quarintine for countries with low covid levels.

I agree people won't be rushing back here that's I assume why flights won't be back up to their normal number for a long time. But things will have to be eased back to normal otherwise the economy is ****ed.

As good as video conferencing is for certain things nothing beats a face to face meeting. Business trips won't be at the same volume they always have been for a while but they won't disappear.

Agree on this but in these extraordinary times...? I used to do lots of business meetings all over Europe when I was working and really a lot of them could have been done by video link, except that that facility was not that readily available back the late 90's early 00's. The craziest ever trip was flying to Copenhagen, then a helicopter flight on to Malmo for a meeting that lasted less than one hour.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Agree on this but in these extraordinary times...? I used to do lots of business meetings all over Europe when I was working and really a lot of them could have been done by video link, except that that facility was not that readily available back the late 90's early 00's. The craziest ever trip was flying to Copenhagen, then a helicopter flight on to Malmo for a meeting that lasted less than one hour.

I had to attend a meeting in Bremen and had to change planes in Amsterdam. The meeting took place in the guy's living room and I spent the whole time trying to fend off his two dogs trying to sniff my crotch. A video conference would have been preferable!

[Wales-Bales]

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Interesting..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/02/prof-lockdown-neil-ferguson-admits-sweden-used-science-uk-has/

[Croesy Blue]

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“They came to a different policy conclusion, but based really on quite similar science.

“I don’t agree with it. But scientifically, they’re not that far from scientists in any part of the world.”

Sweden’s rate of virus reproduction – the so-called ‘R’ value – is thought to be at one, meaning that, on average, every case will cause one other infection.

In the UK, it is thought to be between 0.75 and one, meaning the virus outbreak is retreating.

While pointing out that the Sweden’s mortality rate is not declining in a similar way to other European countries, Prof Ferguson said: “Nevertheless, it is interesting that adopting a policy which is short of a full lockdown – they have closed secondary schools and universities and there is a significant amount of social distancing, but it’s not a full lockdown – they have got quite a long way to the same effect. That is something we are looking at very closely.

“Lockdowns are very crude policies, and what we’d like to do is have much more targeted controlled transmission going forward, which doesn’t have the same economic impacts.”

I’m not sure it’s anything new

[Rjk]

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is devolution good now?

[Wales-Bales]

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I’m not sure it’s anything new

We screwed our economy and Sweden didn't.

[Rjk]

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We screwed our economy and Sweden didn't.

Sweden is a lot lower population density than England especially, we *could* have stuck with that approach, but then I suspect we would have seen a huge number of deaths

[Croesy Blue]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/24/sweden-wrong-not-to-shut-down-says-former-state-epidemiologist

[Croesy Blue]

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Sweden

Confirmed 38,589

Recovered
4,971

Deaths
4,468

Denmark

Confirmed
11,734
+35

Recovered
10,489

Deaths
580

Finland

Confirmed
6,887

Recovered
5,500

Deaths
320

Norway

Confirmed
8,455

Recovered
7,727

Deaths
237

Hmmmm

[Heisenberg]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...epidemiologist

https://www.ft.com/content/dae6d006-9adc-46d5-9b4e-79a7841022e8

[Croesy Blue]

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I bet those 4,500 dead and their families are glad the economy only contracted by 0.2% instead of 2%. What a relief that must be for them!

[the other bob wilson]

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Schools in Wales to reopen on 29 June.