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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by ccfc_is_my_life View Post
    Brexit has to be a higher priority, surely?

    We're talking about something affecting the entire nation for the long term against a relatively short term pandemic. Yes, deaths are obviously sad but no government can just drop everything and focus solely on the pandemic. End up with a massive backlog of things to then do afterwards.
    They are getting through the really important stuff pretty quickly - repainting the Prime Minister's plane (£900k and rising), abolishing the Dept of International Development, and claiming that no one in government knew anything about the case for extending kids' food vouchers into the summer holidays until Matt Hancock tripped over a 'Daniel' Rashford tweet yesterday! Impressive stuff!

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    • Re: Coronavirus update

      Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
      They are getting through the really important stuff pretty quickly - repainting the Prime Minister's plane (£900k and rising), abolishing the Dept of International Development, and claiming that no one in government knew anything about the case for extending kids' food vouchers into the summer holidays until Matt Hancock tripped over a 'Daniel' Rashford tweet yesterday! Impressive stuff!
      Meanwhile.

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      • Re: Coronavirus update

        Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
        I will regret saying this - but the 2019 General Election saw just 67.3% of the electorate vote - and of those under 46% supported parties that wanted to 'get Brexit done'. No doubt Brexit was the biggest single issue in the election - and most parties (not Labour) had a clear and partisan position, but it wasn't the only issue. It was not a new referendum, despite attempts to portray it as such.

        Your last sentence has surely been lifted from the Daily Express? A strange mixture of naivety, British exceptionalism and victimhood.
        You can argue however you like about the 2019 election. All who were entitled to vote could have. Everyone knew the rules, a lot decided not to vote, maybe because they didn't care. Who will ever know.

        But we live in a democracy, although some might prefer a benevolent autocracy, but glad to say that's not in place just yet.

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        • Re: Coronavirus update

          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
          It's the place Brexit appears to have in the Government's list of priorities and the way some people still bang on about as if it's more important than more than 50,000 people dying that I can't get my head around.
          If we forget Brexit will it bring the 50,00 back? If it did Id go for it.

          But it won't. You write as if its a choice ..either or...Of course it's not. Both things need to be managed

          And do you really think more time and effort recently has been spent on Brexit than Covid?

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          • Re: Coronavirus update

            Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
            If we forget Brexit will it bring the 50,00 back? If it did Id go for it.

            But it won't. You write as if its a choice ..either or...Of course it's not. Both things need to be managed

            And do you really think more time and effort recently has been spent on Brexit than Covid?
            Frankly I find it astonishing that people are comparing Brexit to the virus and arguing that the former is an equal, or even higher, priority - 50,000, probably more, have died and who knows how many more could do, that should be the priority while there is not a vaccine or a treatment available that greatly reduces the number of fatalities.-

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            • Re: Coronavirus update

              Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
              You can argue however you like about the 2019 election. All who were entitled to vote could have. Everyone knew the rules, a lot decided not to vote, maybe because they didn't care. Who will ever know.
              You are absolutely right and that’s an indication of just how stupid the British public is, unfortunately.

              I think I’m right in saying you voted for Brexit, and then for Boris and his cabinet of fools. Indeed, we’d almost certainly never have had the latter without the former, so well done you. Good choices. It’s all working out so well.

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              • Re: Coronavirus update

                Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                Frankly I find it astonishing that people are comparing Brexit to the virus and arguing that the former is an equal, or even higher, priority - 50,000, probably more, have died and who knows how many more could do, that should be the priority while there is not a vaccine or a treatment available that greatly reduces the number of fatalities.-
                And in the meantime businesses go under, mass unemployment so by the time any vaccine arrives Britain is ****ed...

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                • Re: Coronavirus update

                  Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                  Frankly I find it astonishing that people are comparing Brexit to the virus and arguing that the former is an equal, or even higher, priority - 50,000, probably more, have died and who knows how many more could do, that should be the priority while there is not a vaccine or a treatment available that greatly reduces the number of fatalities.-
                  Only one of those priorities of course is dictated by deadlines purely man-made this side of the Channel

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                  • Re: Coronavirus update

                    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                    Frankly I find it astonishing that people are comparing Brexit to the virus and arguing that the former is an equal, or even higher, priority - 50,000, probably more, have died and who knows how many more could do, that should be the priority while there is not a vaccine or a treatment available that greatly reduces the number of fatalities.-
                    Dexamethasone and remdesivir seem to help, the former greatly reducing the number of fatalities

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update

                      Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                      You are absolutely right and that’s an indication of just how stupid the British public is, unfortunately.

                      I think I’m right in saying you voted for Brexit, and then for Boris and his cabinet of fools. Indeed, we’d almost certainly never have had the latter without the former, so well done you. Good choices. It’s all working out so well.

                      The British public in your opinion are stupid. That’s reality. And as for Boris and his bunch, at the time of the election the head of the opposition was hardly going to be our saviour, so given the choice maybe the public are not that stupid

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update

                        Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                        Frankly I find it astonishing that people are comparing Brexit to the virus and arguing that the former is an equal, or even higher, priority - 50,000, probably more, have died and who knows how many more could do, that should be the priority while there is not a vaccine or a treatment available that greatly reduces the number of fatalities.-

                        Nobody but you is comparing one with the other. Both need to be managed

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update

                          Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                          Only one of those priorities of course is dictated by deadlines purely man-made this side of the Channel
                          The priority with a deadline was agreed by the public via a general election. But it’s not really a priority. Both situations need to be managed

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update

                            Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                            The British public in your opinion are stupid. That’s reality. And as for Boris and his bunch, at the time of the election the head of the opposition was hardly going to be our saviour, so given the choice maybe the public are not that stupid
                            Nobody will ever know if another PM would have been our saviour but what we do know for certain is that this Johnson bloke is a complete failure, we’ve nothing else to go on but I reckon we have the knowledge that it would be damn hard for anyone in the hot seat to be any worse, the evidence is plain to see.

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                            • Re: Coronavirus update

                              Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                              You are absolutely right and that’s an indication of just how stupid the British public is, unfortunately.

                              I think I’m right in saying you voted for Brexit, and then for Boris and his cabinet of fools. Indeed, we’d almost certainly never have had the latter without the former, so well done you. Good choices. It’s all working out so well.
                              If you voted brexit then you might aswell have voted Tory anyway, the Tories played on this slim majority to great affect to win the election. Turning over labour strongholds who decided they wanted brexit so turned. Which is why I voted to remain and didn’t bother for the election, it was a forgone conclusion....I guess you reap what you sow.

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                              • Re: Coronavirus update

                                Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                                The priority with a deadline was agreed by the public via a general election. But it’s not really a priority. Both situations need to be managed
                                Is this the public totally aware that a pandemic was coming or a different one? The government has the opportunity to focus on the health and economic consequences of the virus but has decided to maintain the position that it will leave the transition period as planned with or without a deal. I guess you are comfortable with that but many others think it's a fools errand.

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