Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Heisenberg]

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So why don't you want to remove the unfair advantage from all the competition?

What if, say, 75% of the high street retailers have changed their business model to include online sales... Would you want them to suffer twice?

The whole point of not allowing the sale of non-essential items in shops is to reduce risk. They were never going to please everyone with this policy but stopping online sales too doesn't make any sense to me as the risk is minimal at most.

[the other bob wilson]

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thanks for that hive link, I'll check that out

Same here.

[the other bob wilson]

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So why don't you want to remove the unfair advantage from all the competition?

Because, as I said earlier, it's all about keeping contact between people in shops down as low as possible - even if it could be done, stopping online sales in a situation where the aim is to cut numbers in shops and the amount of time people spend in them would be ludicrous, is that what you're proposing?

[LeningradCowboy]

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What if, say, 75% of the high street retailers have changed their business model to include online sales... Would you want them to suffer twice?

The whole point of not allowing the sale of non-essential items in shops is to reduce risk. They were never going to please everyone with this policy but stopping online sales too doesn't make any sense to me as the risk is minimal at most.

I don't want them to suffer at all and I don't want to restrict online sales. I'm just wondering why some people support imposing these restrictions on supermarkets to mitigate the situation for small shops, but don't want to impose them on other retailers.

I'd also like to know how much the risk is reduced by preventing supermarkets, which are already open, from selling their full range of goods.

[LeningradCowboy]

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Because, as I said earlier, it's all about keeping contact between people in shops down as low as possible - even if it could be done, stopping online sales in a situation where the aim is to cut numbers in shops and the amount of time people spend in them would be ludicrous, is that what you're proposing?

Didn't you write that the logic behind the decision was to stop small shops being discriminated against?

[the other bob wilson]

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I thought you wrote that the logic behind the decision was to stop small shops being discriminated against?

Round and round in circles because you want to score party political points - I said that I could understand the logic whereby they didn't want to see smaller, independent traders discriminated against like they were first time around because supermarkets had an unfair advantage over them. Nothing you're saying is making me think I was wrong in thinking that (quite the opposite in fact).

Therefore, there's no point in continuing this discussion.

[Heisenberg]

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I don't want them to suffer at all and I don't want to restrict online sales. I'm just wondering why some people support imposing these restrictions on supermarkets to mitigate the situation for small shops, but don't want to impose them on other retailers.

I'd also like to know how much the risk is reduced by preventing supermarkets, which are already open, from selling their full range of goods.

I know you don't want them to suffer at all, that's why I don't see the logic of talking about stopping online retail too.

You're right, I think it would be very beneficial for quantifiable evidence of how much risk would be reduced by not allowing non-essential items to be sold in supermarkets, but it does make sense that people who would only be going to the stores to buy non-essential items won't be going there now. That would obviously reduce the chance of people coming into contact with the virus as the less people there are in an enclosed environment, the better.

[BLUETIT]

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I know you don't want them to suffer at all, that's why I don't see the logic of talking about stopping online retail too.

You're right, I think it would be very beneficial for quantifiable evidence of how much risk would be reduced by not allowing non-essential items to be sold in supermarkets, but it does make sense that people who would only be going to the stores to buy non-essential items won't be going there now. That would obviously reduce the chance of people coming into contact with the virus as the less people there are in an enclosed environment, the better.

What about the "Ozone lot", moaning about all these deliveries ??

[blue matt]

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well donebut its what the older generation are like always worry about something

its bloody crazy to be honest, but it made me laugh as i addressed it to " My Mum whose kettle might break , Barry "
so it gave me a bit of a laugh and will keep my mum from fretting over it

[Heisenberg]

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What about the "Ozone lot", moaning about all these deliveries ??

Are they? That's news to me, Tone.

I would have thought it would actually reduce carbon emissions by having a finite number of people doing deliveries to numerous addresses rather than everyone using their own vehicles and public transport to travel to and from the shops.

[BLUETIT]

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Are they? That's news to me, Tone.

I would have thought it would actually reduce carbon emissions by having a finite number of people doing deliveries to numerous addresses rather than everyone using their own vehicles and public transport to travel to and from the shops.

My cars travelled 36 miles since March

Can someone go and bring it back to me please

[Hilts]

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its bloody crazy to be honest, but it made me laugh as i addressed it to " My Mum whose kettle might break , Barry "
so it gave me a bit of a laugh and will keep my mum from fretting over it

If I was her id be ringing you today saying Matt im worried my TV will break.

A new 65 inch will do as a spare.

[LeningradCowboy]

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I know you don't want them to suffer at all, that's why I don't see the logic of talking about stopping online retail too.

You're right, I think it would be very beneficial for quantifiable evidence of how much risk would be reduced by not allowing non-essential items to be sold in supermarkets, but it does make sense that people who would only be going to the stores to buy non-essential items won't be going there now. That would obviously reduce the chance of people coming into contact with the virus as the less people there are in an enclosed environment, the better.

It seems to me that the restrictions have pissed off a lot of people for minimal gain, unless supermarkets are thought to be hotbeds of infection.

[Heisenberg]

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My cars travelled 36 miles since March

Can someone go and bring it back to me please

Congratulations... I think

[Heisenberg]

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It seems to me that the restrictions have pissed off a lot of people for minimal gain, unless supermarkets are thought to be hotbeds of infection.

That's fair enough. I get the point of what they're trying to achieve, as well as a lot of others seem to do. But there are equally a lot of people who don't understand it (and a lot who will choose not to), so it will just come to an impasse in debate because those on either side of the argument will not be able to concede on it.