Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[LeningradCowboy]

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not a dig at you but I could probably find a bunch of other experts who say the complete opposite. It's one of the things that make this situation so difficult isn't it

I'm not sure that you would be able to find an expert who says circuit breaker lockdowns are "guaranteed to succeed" and would bring "benefit without cost"!

[LeningradCowboy]

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Wales is banning people from other areas in the Uk with a high number of cases from visiting the country;-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54540764

Does this mean that we can't sign Harry Wilson?!

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Does this mean that we can't sign Harry Wilson?!

[delmbox]

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I'm not sure that you would be able to find an expert who says circuit breaker lockdowns are "guaranteed to succeed" and would bring "benefit without cost"!

Well no but I'm sure there are experts who say that the only way to stem the spread is through a circuit breaker

[LeningradCowboy]

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https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/coronavirus/2020/10/are-pubs-and-restaurants-blame-second-wave-covid-19

The hospitality industry has been singled out by Chris Whitty for spreading the virus, but the evidence is anything but clear-cut.

[xsnaggle]

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Quite right. Well done Drakeford.

They have been doing it to a degree by stealth for a couple of weeks.
The test centres used to have people from all over the country coming to them but for the last 2 weeks no one from outside the test centre local area has been able to book at test.
How can it be that you can enter a restricted area to go to work or to school but you cannot enter it to find out if you have a potentially fatal illness?

[Rjk]

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Well no but I'm sure there are experts who say that the only way to stem the spread is through a circuit breaker

there are experts that say we would save 7000 lives by implementing a circuit breaker.

[xsnaggle]

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there are experts that say we would save 7000 lives by implementing a circuit breaker.

I think it would be 8000.

[Grangenders]

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Should be easy to police - anyone spotted in South Wales wearing a Man Utd or Liverpool shirt should be instantly sent back north and placed into quarantine for two weeks with no access to Sky Sports.

[lisvaneblue]

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Quite right. Well done Drakeford.

It's a political move and little to do with protecting us. I had a look at the paper which Prof Drakeford quotes as the evidence and the conclusion is.... the easing of the lockdown rules in July/ August has corresponded with an increase in cases with data suggesting that increases in Wales may be driven by imports from other parts of the UK and wider world
And how do you police this? The Severn Bridge has 30,000 vehicles cross into Wales each day. That will continue.

In North Wales 36,000 workers move out of their areas to work each day, and 23,000 come in to these areas...

In South East Wales the figures are 57,000 out, 32,000 in

This is not to say they they commute to England but they move in and out of their localities and there must be some traffic to England

Trying to stop tourists from high risk areas is not viable when there is such a large amount of daily traffic anyhow, and probably not worth the immense effort required to police it properly.

AS I said earlier our FM seemingly can't help trying to score points

[Jordi Culé]

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Thanks for the support but shouldn't that have been answering the first sarcastic comment form Jordi Cule?

He knows I'm being sarcastic, it's my general demeanour.

He's supporting you because he's realised that sometimes you come across as dull as an empty packet of Wotsits.

Be grateful someone cares.

Hugs, kisses, catches and love.

[LeningradCowboy]

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It's a political move and little to do with protecting us. I had a look at the paper which Prof Drakeford quotes as the evidence and the conclusion is.... the easing of the lockdown rules in July/ August has corresponded with an increase in cases with data suggesting that increases in Wales may be driven by imports from other parts of the UK and wider world
And how do you police this? The Severn Bridge has 30,000 vehicles cross into Wales each day. That will continue.

In North Wales 36,000 workers move out of their areas to work each day, and 23,000 come in to these areas...

In South East Wales the figures are 57,000 out, 32,000 in

This is not to say they they commute to England but they move in and out of their localities and there must be some traffic to England

Trying to stop tourists from high risk areas is not viable when there is such a large amount of daily traffic anyhow, and probably not worth the immense effort required to police it properly.

AS I said earlier our FM seemingly can't help trying to score points

https://www.polfed.org/news-media/latest-news/2020/police-federation-statement-on-proposed-prevention-regulations/

The head of the Police Federation in Wales has already said that the rules are unenforceable.

[Hilts]

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They have been doing it to a degree by stealth for a couple of weeks.
The test centres used to have people from all over the country coming to them but for the last 2 weeks no one from outside the test centre local area has been able to book at test.
How can it be that you can enter a restricted area to go to work or to school but you cannot enter it to find out if you have a potentially fatal illness?

Are you sure this is true. Exactly 2 weeks ago my wife had a test outside our lockdown area and was told that this is allowed.

[xsnaggle]

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He knows I'm being sarcastic, it's my general demeanour.

He's supporting you because he's realised that sometimes you come across as dull as an empty packet of Wotsits.

Be grateful someone cares.

Hugs, kisses, catches and love.

Dull? lmao but not blinkered.

[Hilts]

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It's a political move and little to do with protecting us. I had a look at the paper which Prof Drakeford quotes as the evidence and the conclusion is.... the easing of the lockdown rules in July/ August has corresponded with an increase in cases with data suggesting that increases in Wales may be driven by imports from other parts of the UK and wider world
And how do you police this? The Severn Bridge has 30,000 vehicles cross into Wales each day. That will continue.

In North Wales 36,000 workers move out of their areas to work each day, and 23,000 come in to these areas...

In South East Wales the figures are 57,000 out, 32,000 in

This is not to say they they commute to England but they move in and out of their localities and there must be some traffic to England

Trying to stop tourists from high risk areas is not viable when there is such a large amount of daily traffic anyhow, and probably not worth the immense effort required to police it properly.

AS I said earlier our FM seemingly can't help trying to score points

Utter rubbish

I cant travel 7 miles to do some shopping because of a lockdown.

Drakeford is doing the right thing to stop people from an area like Liverpool with a high infection rate travelling into Wales.

Its not political its the right thing to do.