Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Rjk]

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will I'm afraid be ignored by so many who now believe that Johnson and his Cabinet of political pygmies and chancers have earned their vote because they have, finally, done something that has worked when it comes to tackling Covid and, let's not forget, they also "got Brexit done".

Meanwhile, as we approach the first anniversary of the claim that 20,000 dead in the UK would be a "good" outcome, 100,000 more than that figure have now died - around a year ago, Gluey was posting links to forecasts which said only around 7,000 would die in the UK, that many, and more, were dying in a week until recently. Despite this, none of it seems to affect those who have had the ultimate responsibility for deciding our Covid policy and I have to wonder what more needs to go wrong before the forty odd per cent start to abandon their blind faith in the UK Government?

you have to wonder why Labour haven't gone on the offensive more. at the announcement yesterday Starmer was completely passive. if anything Johnson attacked him more than the other way around.

I can only imagine that they are purposefully keeping their tinder dry at the moment, so as not to be seen to be undermining the efforts to curb the virus, as I don't think an overly combative approach would go down well with a lot of people at the moment.
hopefully there will be an inquiry at the end of this all, and at that point they will at least look to land some punches.

[goats]

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There's a hundred different slants you can put on this. The UK has a high death rate because we have so many obese/diabetic people, and we record deaths differently. The fact that cases & deaths trickled to almost zero after everything in that blog before surging to the heights of this winter suggests that those things had no real affect. The fact we left the EU after all those idiots who didn't know better voted for it, and now watch as the EU regions are in a civil war over lack of vaccines.

Seriously, do you ever let up on having a go at the Tories ? Personally I couldn't care about any of them..

He’s not is he....I don’t vote Tory or labour, but I really doubt Corbyn would have done any better, it’s a bit sad to keep going on and on about it.....

[Rjk]

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He’s not is he....I don’t vote Tory or labour, but I really doubt Corbyn would have done any better, it’s a bit sad to keep going on and on about it.....

I think they would have been a lot less likely to resist locking down early enough in lockdown's 1 and 2, or open back up too early, as a lot of the pressure to do that came from the right of the tory party.
We will never know though.
One thing's for sure is the press would have been many times more critical of ANY Corbyn response than they have been of Johnson, who has been demonstrably incompetent at times.

[Elwood Blues]

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I think they would have been a lot less likely to resist locking down early enough in lockdown's 1 and 2, or open back up too early, as a lot of the pressure to do that came from the right of the tory party.
We will never know though.
One thing's for sure is the press would have been many times more critical of ANY Corbyn response than they have been of Johnson, who has been demonstrably incompetent at times.

A lot of the "Tory Press " has been quite scathing about Boris Johnson at times

[goats]

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I think they would have been a lot less likely to resist locking down early enough in lockdown's 1 and 2, or open back up too early, as a lot of the pressure to do that came from the right of the tory party.
We will never know though.
One thing's for sure is the press would have been many times more critical of ANY Corbyn response than they have been of Johnson, who has been demonstrably incompetent at times.

One minute he’s too easy going though like last summer, now he’s being too cautious.....you gotta laugh

[the other bob wilson]

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you have to wonder why Labour haven't gone on the offensive more. at the announcement yesterday Starmer was completely passive. if anything Johnson attacked him more than the other way around.

I can only imagine that they are purposefully keeping their tinder dry at the moment, so as not to be seen to be undermining the efforts to curb the virus, as I don't think an overly combative approach would go down well with a lot of people at the moment.
hopefully there will be an inquiry at the end of this all, and at that point they will at least look to land some punches.

I think it's awkward for any opposition party because we're on as close to a war footing as nearly all of us have seen during our lifetimes and so a governing party can play the loyalty card and imply that criticism of their actions is, somehow, unpatriotic. I think that's rubbish and would do if the WAG tried such an approach as well, but I'd say it's quite a tough charge to disprove if you're a political party, so other parties in Westminster are having to perform a pretty tricky balancing act.

We're seeing in recent replies to my posts that there are many who are, it seems, indifferent to, for example, the sort of unlawful acts Matt Hancock has indulged in - you and I may find that thread you posted a link to shocking, but I think we're probably in a small minority.

[City123]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/56151863

Up to 10,000 fans could be allowed back in by mid-May in England

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/56151863

Up to 10,000 fans could be allowed back in by mid-May in England

Or 25% capacity. City should be able to therefore accommodate more than three times as many as Bournemouth will be able to.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Oops

[City123]

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Or 25% capacity. City should be able to therefore accommodate more than three times as many as Bournemouth will be able to.

So about 8,000 at the CCS

[Rjk]

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One minute he’s too easy going though like last summer, now he’s being too cautious.....you gotta laugh

I've never accused any of the UK leaders of being too cautious in this pandemic. the fact we have about the highest death rate in the world suggests we could probably have been a tad more cautious throughout

[Michael Morris]

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Follow Boris setting out England's exit from lockdown Sturgeon is announcing Scotland's plan at the moment.

Will Drakeford make a statement now or will he stick to his three week plan and only update in March?

[the other bob wilson]

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Follow Boris setting out England's exit from lockdown Sturgeon is announcing Scotland's plan at the moment.

Will Drakeford make a statement now or will he stick to his three week plan and only update in March?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56170916

Possibly, she’s doing this to take attention away from domestic issues? I should think there will be some pressure on Drakeford after this though.

[surge]

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Follow Boris setting out England's exit from lockdown Sturgeon is announcing Scotland's plan at the moment.

Will Drakeford make a statement now or will he stick to his three week plan and only update in March?

Boris both has and hasn't set a plan out. There are a lot of if's but's and maybe's:

As I've said this afternoon, up to a point. Even though we've had a lot of documents today, we don't really know what the exact criteria is, what the data is the govt is looking for.

Lots of talk about “the four tests”- but in reality, they’re quite vague, their calculation could be made in several different ways. And the government hasn’t given detail on exactly what they’re looking for. Given that, wonder how immovable the dates will be, in practice.

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...30425626927113

Is it better to have dates and an order to look forward to, which can change without much effort, even if in 5 months each nation might be at exactly the same point?