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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by Allez Allez Allez View Post
    Your sources?
    Goats has been on record to say he literally lives next door to 8 doctors and knows a few more so I wouldn't diss him just yet.

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    • Re: Coronavirus update

      Originally posted by goats View Post
      Expect to hear good stuff about this, if my sources are correct. Won’t put my neck right in the block as this isn’t a player signing type stuff....but it’s the best yet AND it’s already here and waiting. No logistical or temperature issues.
      Any hope is great news .

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      • Re: Coronavirus update

        Originally posted by life on mars View Post
        Any hope is great news .
        What does that mean?

        Even though Cardiff City are middling in the Championship I have a fantastic hope that they will go up as Champions.

        Phew. I had my doubts but that's great news!

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        • Re: Coronavirus update

          Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
          Goats has been on record to say he literally lives next door to 8 doctors and knows a few more so I wouldn't diss him just yet.
          That’s right but this wasn’t them.

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          • Re: Coronavirus update

            Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
            Over a thousand new cases in Wales for a third consecutive day after it was below that level earlier in the week - that doesn't look good in terms of the effectiveness of the firebreak, but I suppose it's too early to draw too many conclusions.

            https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary
            Down under a thousand in Wales today - surprised by the lower Cwm Taf Morgannwg figure, I wonder if that's got anything to do with the testing situation in Merthyr?

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            • Re: Coronavirus update

              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
              Down under a thousand in Wales today - surprised by the lower Cwm Taf Morgannwg figure, I wonder if that's got anything to do with the testing situation in Merthyr?

              https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary
              Or maybe its just because its Sunday and the usual weekend blip.

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              • Re: Coronavirus update

                Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                Down under a thousand in Wales today - surprised by the lower Cwm Taf Morgannwg figure, I wonder if that's got anything to do with the testing situation in Merthyr?

                https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary
                the daily figure is too erratic to read much into it, the graphs are more useful, it looks as though we may have plateaued, or be coming down very graduallyIMG_20201122_162622.jpg

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                • Re: Coronavirus update

                  What you say is true for deaths figures, but the day of the week it is doesn’t seem to be that much of a factor when it comes to new cases.

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                  • Re: Coronavirus update

                    Originally posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
                    Goats has been on record to say he literally lives next door to 8 doctors and knows a few more so I wouldn't diss him just yet.
                    Oxford vaccine 70% effective. It uses more traditional technology bit like the flu vaccine and with similar effectiveness.

                    So here is a vaccine that is much easier to store and administer but 25% less effective, and it's the one UK has purchased 100m doses of.

                    Maybe the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will be given to the elderly and the Oxford rolled out to the general population.

                    All good news and the sooner its available the better

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update

                      Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                      Oxford vaccine 70% effective. It uses more traditional technology bit like the flu vaccine and with similar effectiveness.

                      So here is a vaccine that is much easier to store and administer but 25% less effective, and it's the one UK has purchased 100m doses of.

                      Maybe the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will be given to the elderly and the Oxford rolled out to the general population.

                      All good news and the sooner its available the better
                      This is what my “mate” told me last week, he said about 90% though, he must have meant the people they gave half a dose, then another full dose too.....still, good news I guess

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update

                        Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                        Oxford vaccine 70% effective. It uses more traditional technology bit like the flu vaccine and with similar effectiveness.

                        So here is a vaccine that is much easier to store and administer but 25% less effective, and it's the one UK has purchased 100m doses of.

                        Maybe the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will be given to the elderly and the Oxford rolled out to the general population.

                        All good news and the sooner its available the better
                        The vaccine is cheaper than other options and easier to distribute around the world.


                        Interesting line about how the effectiveness rose to 80 per cent in people given an initial half dose and then a full dose.

                        From what I understand, this is a field where 50 per cent effectiveness is considered good, so I'm not sure I buy that bit about 70 per cent being a "disappointment" and I don't get how thirty cases of Covid among those who were given the vaccine and 101 in those given a dummy works out at 70 per cent protection when 20,000 people were involved in the testing.

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update

                          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55040635

                          Interesting line about how the effectiveness rose to 80 per cent in people given an initial half dose and then a full dose.

                          From what I understand, this is a field where 50 per cent effectiveness is considered good, so I'm not sure I buy that bit about 70 per cent being a "disappointment" and I don't get how thirty cases of Covid among those who were given the vaccine and 101 in those given a dummy works out at 70 per cent protection when 20,000 people were involved in the testing.
                          The maths do make sense. 101 of 10,000 got Covid when given a placebo. In those given the vaccine only 30 got it, which is 70% less than the placebo group, so it's 70% effective.
                          Interesting point about the group given a half dose first. No doubt this will be investigated further.

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update

                            Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                            The maths do make sense. 101 of 10,000 got Covid when given a placebo. In those given the vaccine only 30 got it, which is 70% less than the placebo group, so it's 70% effective.
                            Interesting point about the group given a half dose first. No doubt this will be investigated further.
                            Yes particularly as we have so many doses. I guess even 70 is considered good when our regular flu vaccine is about 50%.

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                            • Re: Coronavirus update

                              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55040635

                              Interesting line about how the effectiveness rose to 80 per cent in people given an initial half dose and then a full dose.

                              From what I understand, this is a field where 50 per cent effectiveness is considered good, so I'm not sure I buy that bit about 70 per cent being a "disappointment" and I don't get how thirty cases of Covid among those who were given the vaccine and 101 in those given a dummy works out at 70 per cent protection when 20,000 people were involved in the testing.
                              Up to 90% Bob not 80%.

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