Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Hilts]

Re: Coronavirus update

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/wales-coronavirus-latest-cases-deaths-19946505

Good news rates falling. RCT now under 50 per 100 000 a condition to be in Tier 1. But we are all still in tier 4.

But with cases continuing to fall hospitality (even outdoors only) is not even being considered in the next 2 reviews in Wales.

I dont think they should open for the Easter weekend but surely with low rates and vaccination going well after the Easter Break hospitality at least outdoors should have some hope for opening.

[goats]

Re: Coronavirus update

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/h...eaths-19946505

Good news rates falling. RCT now under 50 per 100 000 a condition to be in Tier 1. But we are all still in tier 4.

But with cases continuing to fall hospitality (even outdoors only) is not even being considered in the next 2 reviews in Wales.

I dont think they should open for the Easter weekend but surely with low rates and vaccination going well after the Easter Break hospitality at least outdoors should have some hope for opening.

One can only assume they are going for almost zero covid like in NZ and Oz before re opening.....bit strange with the vaccine rollout going so well but I think everyone is now so brain dead and numb to it no one cares and probably won’t come out again anyway.....

[Rjk]

Re: Coronavirus update

One can only assume they are going for almost zero covid like in NZ and Oz before re opening.....bit strange with the vaccine rollout going so well but I think everyone is now so brain dead and numb to it no one cares and probably won’t come out again anyway.....

you only have to look at how quickly it shot up fro mid semptember to understand why they arent opening up very quickly yet

[goats]

Re: Coronavirus update

you only have to look at how quickly it shot up fro mid semptember to understand why they arent opening up very quickly yet

Yes but if all the people that get affected are now vaccinated, unlike last sept/Oct, we should be ok anyway. Transmission rates have plummeted. I imagine they will continue too as the over 50’s are vaccinated now

[surge]

Re: Coronavirus update

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj....campaign=usage

As children have mild forms of disease and teachers are able to protect themselves effectively—their rate of infection is similar to that of adults of the same age and sex2—the biggest risk associated with schools lies in transmission of the virus from children to parents and grandparents vulnerable to developing severe forms of covid-19...
The emerging consensus is that schools do not seem to be amplifiers of transmission, and that cases in schools simply reflect prevalence within the local community...

Most European countries have introduced measures220 to reduce transmission such as cohorting of pupils, physical distancing, improving ventilation of indoor settings, moving physical activities outdoors, regular cleaning of surfaces, and improving hand hygiene and respiratory etiquette. These measures also need to apply beyond the classroom, particularly transport to and from school, during pick-up and drop-off times for both children and adults, and during meal times in the school day...

The most important thing we can do to keep schools safe is to reduce transmission in the community particularly in areas of social deprivation. Reopening of schools should be phased, at a time when community transmission of the virus is controlled, and with primary school aged children prioritised for returning to the classroom to minimise both transmission within schools and the disruption caused by school closures. Although the roll-out of effective vaccines has begun, controlling transmission is even more important to keeping children in the classroom as viral variants with increased transmissibility gain hold in many countries around the world.

Has there been any news regarding improving ventilation in schools/other enclosed areas yet?

Has there been any news on prioritising deprived areas for the vaccine?

[surge]

Re: Coronavirus update

WHO: Roadmap to improve and ensure good indoor ventilation in the context of COVID-19

https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/...=1&isAllowed=y

If anyone wants a technical read into how to ensure good ventilation.

[Hilts]

Re: Coronavirus update

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/wales-coronavirus-cases-deaths-latest-19987102

No new deaths 45 per 100,000 now in Wales. One of the markers for Tier 1. We remain in Tier 4.

Things looking far more positive.

[Rjk]

Re: Coronavirus update

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...atest-19987102

No new deaths 45 per 100,000 now in Wales. One of the markers for Tier 1. We remain in Tier 4.

Things looking far more positive.

yes, a couple more weeks and we should be safe to start opening up

[lisvaneblue]

Re: Coronavirus update

yes, a couple more weeks and we should be safe to start opening up

Good old Mark Drakeford will make the easing of lockdown last a few months at least. First thing is for 'stay at home' to give way to 'stay local'. This will mean, come Easter, that the 400,000 of us that live in Cardiff and surrounds will have nowhere to go for a day out other than Cardiff Bay. Thank you Mark

[Rjk]

Re: Coronavirus update

Good old Mark Drakeford will make the easing of lockdown last a few months at least. First thing is for 'stay at home' to give way to 'stay local'. This will mean, come Easter, that the 400,000 of us that live in Cardiff and surrounds will have nowhere to go for a day out other than Cardiff Bay. Thank you Mark

let's just agree that they're bringing the numbers down well at the moment and the one thing they must not do is cause another spike

[lisvaneblue]

Re: Coronavirus update

let's just agree that they're bringing the numbers down well at the moment and the one thing they must not do is cause another spike

I realise that. England has a plan published for all to see. Wales 'plan' is done in 3 week chunks which keeps us in the dark. When we had the two week firebreak last year, the scientific advisors said three weeks would be much more beneficial. Drakeford replied that we couldn't afford three weeks because of the impact on Welsh business.
The following month, on Dec 20th he put us in lockdown again and its still ongoing. Where is his interest in Welsh business now? He needs to publish a plan to give business and families some hope and quality of life.
As an example Ive booked a haircut but my hairdresser won't know until Friday 12th whether he will be allowed to open on Monday 15th, just ridiculous for businesses to try to work on those sorts of timelines.

Also 30% of the population of Wales have had a Covid jab. That's the main reason that things are improving throughout the UK. When the current lockdown started no one had received a vaccination. He has to be bold enough to realise that keeping levels down should be relatively straightforward as the jab roll out continues, and get focussed on trying to get the Welsh economy back on it's feet

[goats]

Re: Coronavirus update

Good old Mark Drakeford will make the easing of lockdown last a few months at least. First thing is for 'stay at home' to give way to 'stay local'. This will mean, come Easter, that the 400,000 of us that live in Cardiff and surrounds will have nowhere to go for a day out other than Cardiff Bay. Thank you Mark

In Cardiff there is no difference really between stay home and stay local. You would think he’d know that.....there’s no way that people won’t be going wherever come Easter.

[Hilts]

Re: Coronavirus update

In Cardiff there is no difference really between stay home and stay local. You would think he’d know that.....there’s no way that people won’t be going wherever come Easter.

I think the stay local will be 3 weeks only if it comes in.

They are looking at Tourism opening from Easter.

[lisvaneblue]

Re: Coronavirus update

I think the stay local will be 3 weeks only if it comes in.

They are looking at Tourism opening from Easter.

Stay local for 3 weeks from the 15th March will take us past Easter

[goats]

Re: Coronavirus update

Stay local for 3 weeks from the 15th March will take us past Easter

It’s going to be Monday 12th April isn’t it....keeps all the business in west wales struggling a bit longer if they miss Easter for a 2nd year in a row. That’s Westminster’s problem not Drakefords, he just concentrates on health not business.