Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[goats]

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I know that the German government is being criticised heavily for not sourcing enough vaccinations.

Which is strange as they are the world leaders when it comes to producing pharmaceuticals aren’t they? Something I didn’t know until this pandemic....

[Allez Allez Allez]

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Which is strange as they are the world leaders when it comes to producing pharmaceuticals aren’t they? Something I didn’t know until this pandemic....

Not sure why this is being turned into an "us and them " competition by Johnson, well I am sure why but I'm not going to make this political like he does. One thing to remember is that the EU approved the vaccine later.

[The Bloop]

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I know that the German government is being criticised heavily for not sourcing enough vaccinations.

France is also having problems in vaccine uptake. Partly due to the public's mistrust of vaccines in general and partly due to a complex pre-vaccine consent process, which I think, must be done several days before administering the vaccine.

[Hilts]

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I'm always willing to admit I was incorrect and I was. Apologies. However, I note that on another virus thread somebody gained the same impression that the 1.1m/1.3m figure was a daily total when clearly it was the cumulative total.

No problem.

Im sure it will speed up.

[Veg1960]

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Not sure why this is being turned into an "us and them " competition by Johnson, well I am sure why but I'm not going to make this political like he does. One thing to remember is that the EU approved the vaccine later.

I have a few vulnerable family members, so I really hope that The Government pulls this off.

However, I'm going to predict that in a couple of weeks they will be saying that comparing the numbers of vaccines administered in different countries isn't a valid means of judging The Government's performance.

Just a hunch!

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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France is also having problems in vaccine uptake. Partly due to the public's mistrust of vaccines in general and partly due to a complex pre-vaccine consent process, which I think, must be done several days before administering the vaccine.

It fascinates me that it seems a rarity for people to try and have an global overview of current events and it's often as if Blighty exists in a bubble - and it can be very difficult to judge some complex matters at the best of times if we aren't political dogmatists.
However, and at the risk of stating the obvious, it seems that the UK has been dire in respect to the virus in general but ahead of many comparable countries in sourcing and delivering the vaccines.

Hardly shocking news, I know.

[Vindec]

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Not sure why this is being turned into an "us and them " competition by Johnson, well I am sure why but I'm not going to make this political like he does. One thing to remember is that the EU approved the vaccine later.

The EU have yet to approve the Astra Zeneca vaccine but have approved the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

[Elwood Blues]

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Not sure why this is being turned into an "us and them " competition by Johnson, well I am sure why but I'm not going to make this political like he does. One thing to remember is that the EU approved the vaccine later.

You are right it shouldn't really be an us or them but I do seem to recall the Government being criticised in the summer for not joining the EU vaccination program which it could have done. The same was true of the Europe wide PPE and ventilator programs.

As far as I can tell not joining those programs hasn't mattered one bit. In fact in the case of the vaccine it seems to have been an advantage ( up to now, could change of course) as we could start our vaccinations before Europe did.


Here's a recent link from the BBC which provides some information. mainly on the vaccine but there is some limited information on progress on the other schemes at the end.

Not just Johnston who makes it political (not disagreeing at all that he does)

[Hilts]

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The EU have yet to approve the Astra Zeneca vaccine but have approved the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

Have the EU got access to Maderna yet? Or are they like us and will get it in the Spring.?

[Elwood Blues]

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1.3 million vaccines in the UK as a whole so far.

Another update due today.

Daily updates from next Monday (11th)

According to ITV.Com

[surge]

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The EU have yet to approve the Astra Zeneca vaccine but have approved the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

Isn't this a metaphor for Brexit*? The UK can now act more quickly than a massive trading block but ended up paying more for the vaccines.

New Zealand is donating (not sure if correct word but gives accurate enough impression) vaccines to neighbouring islands. The UK can vaccine everyone it wants to but can't escape the risk that if insufficient vaccines go to those who have been slower/less able to resource them then the virus mutates beyond the coverage of the existing vaccine and comes back here.

*drink

[surge]

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Scientific contribution (developing a vaccine and identifying drugs to be used as part of treatments) will definitely be seen as positive part of UK response though with good amount of credit going to Boris etc.

[The Bloop]

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Not sure why this is being turned into an "us and them " competition by Johnson, well I am sure why but I'm not going to make this political like he does. One thing to remember is that the EU approved the vaccine later.

The EU have yet to approve the Astra Zeneca vaccine but have approved the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the vaccines being approved for use by individual countries and not the EU as a singularity?

[Elwood Blues]

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You are right it shouldn't really be an us or them but I do seem to recall the Government being criticised in the summer for not joining the EU vaccination program which it could have done. The same was true of the Europe wide PPE and ventilator programs.

As far as I can tell not joining those programs hasn't mattered one bit. In fact in the case of the vaccine it seems to have been an advantage ( up to now, could change of course) as we could start our vaccinations before Europe did.


Here's a recent link from the BBC which provides some information. mainly on the vaccine but there is some limited information on progress on the other schemes at the end.

Not just Johnston who makes it political (not disagreeing at all that he does)

Sorry forgot the BBC link about the EU Vaccine scheme in my earlier post

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52380823

[Elwood Blues]

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Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the vaccines being approved for use by individual countries and not the EU as a singularity?

I think they could have done but I think they agreed to approving it as a bloc.