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  • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

    Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post
    I hope you wear medical grade ones and replace after each use ��
    Why do they have to be medical grade?

    The WHO say

    "Non-medical, fabric masks can be used by the general public under the age of 60 and who do not have underlying health conditions."

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    • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

      Originally posted by Allez Allez Allez View Post
      Why do they have to be medical grade?

      The WHO say

      "Non-medical, fabric masks can be used by the general public under the age of 60 and who do not have underlying health conditions."
      Masks are supposed to protect others , aren’t they?
      So how do you know for certain the age of the person you are near to , or more importantly , how do you know that person has no underlying health condition, who could be any age.

      I would be more comfortable wearing a medical grade one on that basis

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      • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

        Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
        Try Nature instead. There's absolutely zero doubt that SARS-CoV-2, the virus which causes COVID-19 spreads through three main routes: inhalation of droplets suspended in the air, direct deposition of droplets on mucous membranes, and the carriage of virus particles from contaminated surfaces to the mucous membranes.

        Meanwhile, in the real world, this stuff will keep happening with uninformed opinions Rightwing radio host and anti-vaxxer dies of Covid

        Dissing the Scientific community is dangerous and counterproductive. We owe our lives to these people. We've had the same problems with climate change and just look where that's getting us. We all saw the Bluebirds who died from Covid on Saturday and they're haunting images.
        I must hand it to you, you're brilliant. You worked out with absolutely zero doubt what all the scientistss with the programmes test and everything else haven't been able to do. You should write to them and tell them where they've been going wrong.
        You are brillinat.

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        • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

          Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
          I must hand it to you, you're brilliant. You worked out with absolutely zero doubt what all the scientistss with the programmes test and everything else haven't been able to do. You should write to them and tell them where they've been going wrong.
          You are brillinat.
          To be fair, the article you linked to says as much:

          “The whole field is plagued by poor quality studies, by ideology-driven sweeping statements that cannot be backed up by science,” said Professor Tom Jefferson, of Oxford University, one of the authors on the review. “How does it transmit? Most likely droplets and contact.”

          Weird that you'd get passive aggressive with someone when you apparently didn't even read the bloody thing yourself.

          EDIT: Jefferson is also an idiot, for what it's worth

          "His theory was Covid-19 may simply have lain dormant for years before suddenly emerging. As an example of this possibility, he pointed to the isolation of Western Samoa, which lost 22% of its population to Spanish flu in 1918, and claimed the islands had no contact with the outside world. However, it is well documented that Spanish flu arrived in Samoa on board the SS Talune on 7 November, 1918, when six infected passengers from New Zealand were allowed ashore."

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          • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

            Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
            I must hand it to you, you're brilliant. You worked out with absolutely zero doubt what all the scientistss with the programmes test and everything else haven't been able to do. You should write to them and tell them where they've been going wrong.
            You are brillinat.
            Why xsnaggle, thank you for the compliment. How's it going? Hope you have a great day, stay cool, hypertension is not good. The Omron's are pretty reasonably priced and I find they can help monitor which posts to safely reply to. As you can probably tell, I've just taken my 10mg of Ramipril and 0.5mg of Prazosin and mine is 120/80 mmHg which I'm cool with as I could do with losing a few kilos. Stay safe.

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            • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

              Originally posted by celticknight View Post
              To be fair, the article you linked to says as much:

              “The whole field is plagued by poor quality studies, by ideology-driven sweeping statements that cannot be backed up by science,” said Professor Tom Jefferson, of Oxford University, one of the authors on the review. “How does it transmit? Most likely droplets and contact.”

              Weird that you'd get passive aggressive with someone when you apparently didn't even read the bloody thing yourself.

              EDIT: Jefferson is also an idiot, for what it's worth

              "His theory was Covid-19 may simply have lain dormant for years before suddenly emerging. As an example of this possibility, he pointed to the isolation of Western Samoa, which lost 22% of its population to Spanish flu in 1918, and claimed the islands had no contact with the outside world. However, it is well documented that Spanish flu arrived in Samoa on board the SS Talune on 7 November, 1918, when six infected passengers from New Zealand were allowed ashore."
              For me, the discussion should centre around scientific journals with credibility as opposed to an ideologically driven newspaper opinion piece that is very selective about the information it publishes. And yes, full disclosure, I hate The Telegraph. It's a climate-change-denying employer of Boris Johnson. Why on earth would I believe anything in it?

              Yes, Jefferson got that one spectacularly wrong.

              More full disclosure. I worked with Oxford University back in the late 90s on a couple of pharmacological studies they were funding. This was well before forced early retirement due to Multiple Sclerosis. I now work on game development (I re-skilled and re-purposed my development skills into setting up something I loved doing as a hobby). I found it really difficult because there was a massive clash between academia and commercial development thinking. I was glad when the collaboration ended.

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              • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
                Why xsnaggle, thank you for the compliment. How's it going? Hope you have a great day, stay cool, hypertension is not good. The Omron's are pretty reasonably priced and I find they can help monitor which posts to safely reply to. As you can probably tell, I've just taken my 10mg of Ramipril and 0.5mg of Prazosin and mine is 120/80 mmHg which I'm cool with as I could do with losing a few kilos. Stay safe.
                Another keyboard bully who tries to show the other person is stressed . It's an old trick and it doesn't work with me. You can stuff your hyprtention up your arse and let it chat to your brain Sad keyboard warrior loser

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                • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                  Originally posted by celticknight View Post
                  To be fair, the article you linked to says as much:

                  “The whole field is plagued by poor quality studies, by ideology-driven sweeping statements that cannot be backed up by science,” said Professor Tom Jefferson, of Oxford University, one of the authors on the review. “How does it transmit? Most likely droplets and contact.”

                  Weird that you'd get passive aggressive with someone when you apparently didn't even read the bloody thing yourself.

                  EDIT: Jefferson is also an idiot, for what it's worth

                  "His theory was Covid-19 may simply have lain dormant for years before suddenly emerging. As an example of this possibility, he pointed to the isolation of Western Samoa, which lost 22% of its population to Spanish flu in 1918, and claimed the islands had no contact with the outside world. However, it is well documented that Spanish flu arrived in Samoa on board the SS Talune on 7 November, 1918, when six infected passengers from New Zealand were allowed ashore."
                  So you use jeffersons finding to defend citizen with one brearh and with the next you claim he is an idiot. BRILLIANT.

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                  • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                    Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                    Another keyboard bully who tries to show the other person is stressed . It's an old trick and it doesn't work with me. You can stuff your hyprtention up your arse and let it chat to your brain Sad keyboard warrior loser
                    FFS calm it down. You’re sounding like a raving lunatic. Go and talk your anger issues with some CBT and please stop bothering me.

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                      Just about sums it up.

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                        Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
                        FFS calm it down. You’re sounding like a raving lunatic. Go and talk your anger issues with some CBT and please stop bothering me.

                        there you go again with you "anger issues" comment suggesting you are perfectly OK but the other guy needs to see a pychotherapusist. It's bullying bullshit and you know it.
                        And by the way I'm not angry and I'm a long way rom a raving lunatic. Try your bullshit on someone else.

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                          Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                          there you go again with you "anger issues" comment suggesting you are perfectly OK but the other guy needs to see a pychotherapusist. It's bullying bullshit and you know it.
                          And by the way I'm not angry and I'm a long way rom a raving lunatic. Try your bullshit on someone else.
                          Wetherspoon's should be open by now ffs.

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                            Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                            there you go again with you "anger issues" comment suggesting you are perfectly OK but the other guy needs to see a pychotherapusist. It's bullying bullshit and you know it.
                            And by the way I'm not angry and I'm a long way rom a raving lunatic. Try your bullshit on someone else.
                            You keep mentioning bullying and I really can't help seeing this as projection. I'm certainly not perfectly OK. Far from it and would never presume to suggest that. You do have anger issues and every time you're challenged you get angry whilst protesting you're not. Just get someone to read your posts back to you and give you feedback.

                            I have had and will have tons of psychotherapy. I can highly recommend it. I know that my posts can sometimes read in a very patronising way - but I explained to you when I first started posting here that I struggle because of severe brain damage (which is why your recent comment was in such poor taste). I hardly use a keyboard because I can't type so use assisted tech. and agonizingly pour over each post because they take so much effort and which has now created a level of OCD.

                            I spend time trying to help people on here with tech issues, support for mental health, anything really I feel I can help with, If I f*ck up I'll apologise. None of this stuff is the behaviour of a bully is it? Think about this. Even what I'm putting the energy into now, isn't. Think about it.

                            When I first came on the board I was like a kid in a candy store. I hadn't communicated to strangers online for 10 years, I explained this to you. But only after you'd followed me around on this board in a scarily trolling way to make snide comments and unwelcome/unfriendly comments to other posters about me. You very nearly succeeded in hounding me off. But I'm the bully?

                            I was really badly affected by it. Fot all kinds of reasons. But I came back and I've tried to build bridges but still you attack me. Why? I think you've got this one wrong xsnaggle and whatever is going on isn't about me or what I say but it's about something else going on.

                            You're going to have to deal with it. It's painful stuff but it's worth it because I guarantee you're knocking years off your life expectancy by getting this worked up.

                            I'm a Trekkie. Huge fan. So I genuinely mean it when I say 'Live long and prosper'.

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                            • Re: Coronavirus update - ALERT LEVEL ZERO

                              [QUOTE=Citizen's Nephew;5213519]You keep mentioning bullying and I really can't help seeing this as projection. I'm certainly not perfectly OK. Far from it and would never presume to suggest that. You do have anger issues and every time you're challenged you get angry whilst protesting you're not. Just get someone to read your posts back to you and give you feedback.

                              I have had and will have tons of psychotherapy. I can highly recommend it. I know that my posts can sometimes read in a very patronising way - but I explained to you when I first started posting here that I struggle because of severe brain damage (which is why your recent comment was in such poor taste). I hardly use a keyboard because I can't type so use assisted tech. and agonizingly pour over each post because they take so much effort and which has now created a level of OCD.

                              I spend time trying to help people on here with tech issues, support for mental health, anything really I feel I can help with, If I f*ck up I'll apologise. None of this stuff is the behaviour of a bully is it? Think about this. Even what I'm putting the energy into now, isn't. Think about it.

                              When I first came on the board I was like a kid in a candy store. I hadn't communicated to strangers online for 10 years, I explained this to you. But only after you'd followed me around on this board in a scarily trolling way to make snide comments and unwelcome/unfriendly comments to other posters about me. You very nearly succeeded in hounding me off. But I'm the bully?

                              I was really badly affected by it. Fot all kinds of reasons. But I came back and I've tried to build bridges but still you attack me. Why? I think you've got this one wrong xsnaggle and whatever is going on isn't about me or what I say but it's about something else going on.

                              You're going to have to deal with it. It's painful stuff but it's worth it because I guarantee you're knocking years off your life expectancy by getting this worked up.

                              I'm a Trekkie. Huge fan. So I genuinely mean it when I say 'Live long and prosper'.[/QUOTE

                              You're b oring me now, I'n not even going to try to read all that crap. I did notice 1 comment though, about foloowing you round and trolling you, I've never done that to anyone and you will struggle to demonstrate it, unless of course you are jirga as well, under another of his 20+ names on here.
                              Go away and leave me alone, there's a good boy.

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