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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
    Prof Helen Ward has a very interesting twitter account. Hint; hates Tories.

    I wonder why she's forthright.
    She definitely does but that will become the smear for any scientist whose analysis points the finger at the government.

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    • Re: Coronavirus update

      Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
      Prof Helen Ward has a very interesting twitter account. Hint; hates Tories.

      I wonder why she's forthright.
      I imagine any scientist with a knowledge of how this should have been handled will criticise the Government's slow response.

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      • Re: Coronavirus update

        Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
        I imagine any scientist with a knowledge of how this should have been handled will criticise the Government's slow response.
        Her Tory hatred stems from well before this. I can see why her and Labour party member John Ashton are oft quoted.

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        • Re: Coronavirus update

          Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
          Her Tory hatred stems from well before this. I can see why her and Labour party member John Ashton are oft quoted.
          Of coure she hates the tories she's well educated in a scientific field

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          • Re: Coronavirus update

            Another example of The Welsh government running things for themselves. so much mire efficient.


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            • Re: Coronavirus update

              Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
              Her Tory hatred stems from well before this. I can see why her and Labour party member John Ashton are oft quoted.
              So you think it's more important that they "hate Tories" than that appear to be being proved right in what they've said?

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              • Re: Coronavirus update

                Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
                Prof Helen Ward has a very interesting twitter account. Hint; hates Tories.

                I wonder why she's forthright.
                Very common in academia. Every academic I knew under 40, and a pretty decent amount of those over 40, hated the Tories. Think that attitude changed, unsurprisingly, the further up the age and salary scale you went.

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                • Re: Coronavirus update

                  Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
                  Prof Helen Ward has a very interesting twitter account. Hint; hates Tories.

                  I wonder why she's forthright.
                  Perhaps that's the case. The more important thing though is whether she's being honest regarding advice offered - what do you think?

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                  • Re: Coronavirus update

                    Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                    Of coure she hates the tories she's well educated in a scientific field
                    She's one of those blasted experts that we have to ignore.

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update

                      Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
                      Her Tory hatred stems from well before this. I can see why her and Labour party member John Ashton are oft quoted.
                      Imagine being this much of a fanboy of a political party, embarrassing.

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update

                        Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                        So you think it's more important that they "hate Tories" than that appear to be being proved right in what they've said?
                        Not at all.

                        I'm more curious as to why the media seem to like using the likes of her and Ashton, the latter of which doesn't react well when his Labour links are revealed.

                        There's a difference between being right and relishing in being right.

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update

                          Originally posted by Baloo View Post
                          Perhaps that's the case. The more important thing though is whether she's being honest regarding advice offered - what do you think?
                          I've no reason to doubt she's being honest. I'm also sure she's relishing being right, for political reasons.

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update

                            Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
                            Not at all.

                            I'm more curious as to why the media seem to like using the likes of her and Ashton, the latter of which doesn't react well when his Labour links are revealed.

                            There's a difference between being right and relishing in being right.
                            John Ashton was on Newsnight in January warning about Coronavirus. There may have been a degree of political point scoring going on then I don't know, but they've been proven to be prophetic words and, let's get this right, there would be plenty from the other end of the political spectrum "relishing" being right if the figures were making a case that the Government had been correct to put off introducing a lockdown for as long as they did.

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                            • Re: Coronavirus update

                              Originally posted by tell it like it is View Post
                              Not at all.

                              I'm more curious as to why the media seem to like using the likes of her and Ashton, the latter of which doesn't react well when his Labour links are revealed.

                              There's a difference between being right and relishing in being right.
                              For weeks the narrative was that the only qualified experts were those government employees we see on our screen every day.

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                              • Re: Coronavirus update

                                Is anyone relishing being right or is that a suggestion which is meant to reduce trust in these experts? Gove saying UK had had enough of experts only landed because people were starting to feel/already felt the televised experts were becoming out-of-touch despite their concerns, thereafter ignored, being largely well founded. We're all on the same team here (we all want government to act responsibly and get it right as quickly and safely as possible) but some are saying it's uncouth to ask questions when they get it wrong or simply don't give us information, despite chancellor saying they welcome feedback, because it's "point scoring".

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