Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

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Do you seriously not understand what the graph is showing? I can explain it for you if you like.

Well it would be nice if someone did instead of throwing insults about and pretending to be so clever themselves.

[Rjk]

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Well it would be nice if someone did instead of throwing insults about and pretending to be so clever themselves.

I'm pretty sure in the time spent posting messages on here you could have googled an explanation of what the z score means

[Croesy Blue]

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I'm pretty sure in the time spent posting messages on here you could have googled an explanation of what the z score means

He doesn't understand what excess means either he said.

[Croesy Blue]

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Well it would be nice if someone did instead of throwing insults about and pretending to be so clever themselves.

Excess = excess deaths

Z value is how far from the standard deviation a value is.

[xsnaggle]

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I'm pretty sure in the time spent posting messages on here you could have googled an explanation of what the z score means

So what? Also all the self proclaimed people on here who either posted it, reposted it or castigated me for not knowing could have just tried to explain it to me. But no one has and that includes you.

[Croesy Blue]

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So what? Also all the self proclaimed people on here who either posted it, reposted it or castigated me for not knowing could have just tried to explain it to me. But no one has and that includes you.

Or you could have just googled it, that's what I always do if I don't understand something.

[Croesy Blue]

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So what? Also all the self proclaimed people on here who either posted it, reposted it or castigated me for not knowing could have just tried to explain it to me. But no one has and that includes you.

Self proclaimed people

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He doesn't understand what excess means either he said.

There you go again. I did not say I don't know what excess means, you're making things up again to suit your answers

[Croesy Blue]

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Oh you've popped up again have you. If you look at that map there is nothing on it to say what it is measuring.

What are you talking about here then

[xsnaggle]

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What are you talking about here then

The map shows a scale on the right and countries of Europe on the map. There are no terms of reference, no link to what the person who produced it was trying to prove or disprove, no information on whether the numbers have been weighted to show different population sizes, and no explanation of the information that is not shown. How can any useful information be gleened from it when more than half the counties indicated have no statistics to prove or disprove whatever the thing is trying to show?
Basically it is useless unless all the information is there. How do we know that the information is not available from some countries or that the producer chose to ignore them? Some countries as we are told are massaging their figures, some count differently. Is there any explanation of whether and how these anomolies have been taken into account?
like many graphs it seeks to prove the authors point, but in this case we don't even know, because the map is shown her completely devoid of any context, what his point was or even who he/she was?
People look at it and assume it means what they wanted to believe anyway.
Now people will start going at mne again but none of it will change the point of what I am saying.

[Rjk]

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It is a z score of excess mortality.

https://www.euromomo.eu/how-it-works/what-is-a-z-score

[xsnaggle]

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It is a z score of excess mortality.

https://www.euromomo.eu/how-it-works/what-is-a-z-score

thank you.

[the other bob wilson]

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Or you could have just googled it, that's what I always do if I don't understand something.

He didn't need to do that, I posted a definition in my reply to him.

[the other bob wilson]

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The map shows a scale on the right and countries of Europe on the map. There are no terms of reference, no link to what the person who produced it was trying to prove or disprove, no information on whether the numbers have been weighted to show different population sizes, and no explanation of the information that is not shown. How can any useful information be gleened from it when more than half the counties indicated have no statistics to prove or disprove whatever the thing is trying to show?
Basically it is useless unless all the information is there. How do we know that the information is not available from some countries or that the producer chose to ignore them? Some countries as we are told are massaging their figures, some count differently. Is there any explanation of whether and how these anomolies have been taken into account?
like many graphs it seeks to prove the authors point, but in this case we don't even know, because the map is shown her completely devoid of any context, what his point was or even who he/she was?
People look at it and assume it means what they wanted to believe anyway.
Now people will start going at mne again but none of it will change the point of what I am saying.

I bet you it took you about a quarter of an hour to come up with that - it's a lot of words which doesn't actually say much at all that is relevant, are you related to Boris Johnson by any chance?

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I bet you it took you about a quarter of an hour to come up with that - it's a lot of words which doesn't actually say much at all that is relevant, are you related to Boris Johnson by any chance?

It took me a few seconds when I first looked at it. Without proper reference and context it is meaningless.
to quote you, it doesn't actually say much that is relevant.
and no I'm not.
Reference your other post, I honestly didn't see any reply from you. If I had I'd have acknowledged it with thanks as I usually do on here.