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  • Re: Coronavirus update

    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    That's a fair point, I don't want to fall into stereotyping here, but, in terms of how neighbours behave towards each other, it's much like I remember it being in the 60s and 70s in Cardiff up here. That's a great thing in my view normally, but it may well be one of the factors causing a problem currently. That said, Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and the Vale of Glamorgan are four of those seven Welsh regions that occupy the top eight of the UK infections per 100,000 people ratings and, from what I know, none of them have a similar attitude to the one you describe.
    The stats for Wales are quite worrying. Today 76 more cases, majority in N Wales, but Cardiff and RCT featuring too.

    In Scotland with roughly twice our population 29 cases, and they've been lower than us on a daily basis for a while.

    Northern Ireland, with a similar population to Wales has about half the total number of cases.

    The only positive is that our death rate is lowish, but that is little comfort as I'd prefer people didn't catch it in the first place.

    Our record on testing is awful and our tracking and tracing non existent, so I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised about our transmission rate

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    • Re: Coronavirus update

      Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
      The stats for Wales are quite worrying. Today 76 more cases, majority in N Wales, but Cardiff and RCT featuring too.

      In Scotland with roughly twice our population 29 cases, and they've been lower than us on a daily basis for a while.

      Northern Ireland, with a similar population to Wales has about half the total number of cases.

      The only positive is that our death rate is lowish, but that is little comfort as I'd prefer people didn't catch it in the first place.

      Our record on testing is awful and our tracking and tracing non existent, so I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised about our transmission rate
      What is our transmission rate?

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      • Re: Coronavirus update

        Originally posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
        What is our transmission rate?
        Today its 76...ie the number of new cases

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        • Re: Coronavirus update

          Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
          Today its 76...ie the number of new cases
          Actually its the R rate which Ive been trying g to look up and its around 0.9 I think, but some parts of Wales must be over 1...when you look at places like Denbigh with 21 new cases today

          Mark Drakeford did mention the possibility of tighter restrictions in hot spots, and North Wales is the big hot spot currently

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          • Re: Coronavirus update

            I see there's a study today saying that seventy per cent of those testing positive (not sure if it's for England only or the UK) report no symptoms. This must mean that the percentage of the population who have had the virus has to be higher than the figure of seven per cent I hear a lot of surely?

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            • Re: Coronavirus update

              What did Matt Hancock mean in today's briefing when he said we need to really focus on the R rate for the country as a whole before potentially applying localised lockdown measures? He seemed to say it every time it was mentioned that R may be over 1 again in certain regions. Not having a dig just couldn't follow this point which he made several times.

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              • Re: Coronavirus update

                Originally posted by Baloo View Post
                What did Matt Hancock mean in today's briefing when he said we need to really focus on the R rate for the country as a whole before potentially applying localised lockdown measures? He seemed to say it every time it was mentioned that R may be over 1 again in certain regions. Not having a dig just couldn't follow this point which he made several times.
                I think what he meant was that they get information form a lot of different sources and have to put it all together and find a common way forward. If for example it's 1.1 in liverpool them presumably it is lower somewhere else. That's not a lot of comfort to liverpudlians but I think they also consider the falling infection rate and stuff like that when they consider regional actions.

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                • Re: Coronavirus update

                  Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                  The stats for Wales are quite worrying. Today 76 more cases, majority in N Wales, but Cardiff and RCT featuring too.

                  In Scotland with roughly twice our population 29 cases, and they've been lower than us on a daily basis for a while.

                  Northern Ireland, with a similar population to Wales has about half the total number of cases.

                  The only positive is that our death rate is lowish, but that is little comfort as I'd prefer people didn't catch it in the first place.

                  Our record on testing is awful and our tracking and tracing non existent, so I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised about our transmission rate
                  Typical Scottish, too tight to share a virus

                  No stereotyping there of course.

                  *Slinks away*

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                  • Re: Coronavirus update

                    Originally posted by Baloo View Post
                    What did Matt Hancock mean in today's briefing when he said we need to really focus on the R rate for the country as a whole before potentially applying localised lockdown measures? He seemed to say it every time it was mentioned that R may be over 1 again in certain regions. Not having a dig just couldn't follow this point which he made several times.
                    I missed it today, but if he did say that he is contradicting the government message from earlier in the week. Regional R rates seem to be significant or not depending on the political priority of the day!

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                    • Re: Coronavirus update

                      Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                      I think what he meant was that they get information form a lot of different sources and have to put it all together and find a common way forward. If for example it's 1.1 in liverpool them presumably it is lower somewhere else. That's not a lot of comfort to liverpudlians but I think they also consider the falling infection rate and stuff like that when they consider regional actions.
                      I thought he said the R was between .7 and .9 all over the Uk and so I assumed that what he meant was that, as long as that was the case, there was no need for localised lockdowns, but he seemed somewhat distracted throughout the briefing to me and so I might have got the wrong end of the stick.

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                      • Re: Coronavirus update

                        Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                        I thought he said the R was between .7 and .9 all over the Uk and so I assumed that what he meant was that, as long as that was the case, there was no need for localised lockdowns, but he seemed somewhat distracted throughout the briefing to me and so I might have got the wrong end of the stick.
                        I wasn't sure myself. What I posted is what I "think" he meant. But I don't believe they'd knowing let the R go up to 1.3 or whatever number which would cause everything to go tits up. Even the government can't be that stupid. Can they????

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                        • Re: Coronavirus update

                          Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                          I wasn't sure myself. What I posted is what I "think" he meant. But I don't believe they'd knowing let the R go up to 1.3 or whatever number which would cause everything to go tits up. Even the government can't be that stupid. Can they????
                          ....







                          Yes.

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                          • Re: Coronavirus update

                            Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                            I wasn't sure myself. What I posted is what I "think" he meant. But I don't believe they'd knowing let the R go up to 1.3 or whatever number which would cause everything to go tits up. Even the government can't be that stupid. Can they????
                            This was supposed to be a public information briefing I guess?

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                            • Re: Coronavirus update

                              Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                              I see there's a study today saying that seventy per cent of those testing positive (not sure if it's for England only or the UK) report no symptoms. This must mean that the percentage of the population who have had the virus has to be higher than the figure of seven per cent I hear a lot of surely?
                              Not really. The 7% figure is obtained from recent anti-body tests, and those tests included people who reported no symptoms. The 70% figure would suggest that 4.9% of the population have had covid-19 with no symptoms, and 2.1% have had the virus and reported symptoms.

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