Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Croesy Blue]

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Just 55 UK deaths (3 in Wales) announced today and there were just over 1,200 new cases - the new cases figures do not seem to be as effected by it being a weekend as the death ones are and with it being a fortnight since the bank holiday, you'd like to think any increase as a result of all of those crowded beaches would be appearing by now.

That would be good news, I was hoping the bank holiday wouldn't have too much of an effect.

[CCFCC3PO]

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I don't necessarily dis-believe those, just question what we're told. Remember those who questioned the "weapons of mass destruction" claims, were considered bonkers etc. - 90% of the media swallowed it and reported it - until recently - as fact..

Until recently?

[CCFCC3PO]

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If the prevailing scientists say something, it must be right - because they're the experts..

No-one is saying that are they? Scientists act on the data that is available at the time. Scepticism isn't about boldly arguing against facts and then underlining the flawed argument with "I am a sceptic, I question things". You needed to add the words "I am a sceptic. I question things that go against my own narrative and beliefs". Which, doesn't make you a sceptic at all.

[Baloo]

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No-one is saying that are they? Scientists act on the data that is available at the time. Scepticism isn't about boldly arguing against facts and then underlining the flawed argument with "I am a sceptic, I question things". You needed to add the words "I am a sceptic. I question things that go against my own narrative and beliefs". Which, doesn't make you a sceptic at all.

According to 3M research, whether they describe themselves as sceptics or not, 45% of people only believe in science that aligns with their personal beliefs.

[Wales-Bales]

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I don't necessarily dis-believe those, just question what we're told. Remember those who questioned the "weapons of mass destruction" claims, were considered bonkers etc. - 90% of the media swallowed it and reported it - until recently - as fact..

Ditto the chemical weapons inspectors in Syria who became whistleblowers. You just have to accept that people are incredibly gullible and they will believe absolutely anything, even the ones who think they are really smart

[CCFCC3PO]

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According to 3M research, whether they describe themselves as sceptics or not, 45% of people only believe in science that aligns with their personal beliefs.

I refuse to believe that.

[Rjk]

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I think it was somewhere buried in this thread that the government were paying the tabloids to print advertising that looked like editorial.

apparently they paid Ł35 million for it

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2020/06/08/the-government-just-gave-the-corporate-press-35m-of-your-money/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[CCFCC3PO]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52968523

Lockdown saved millions of lives.

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Did anyone see Mr Drakeford yesterday? He intimated that the 5 mile rule could be enforced for up to 12 more weeks. The man is an idiot. People won't sit still for it when they see what people in England are allowed to do.

He also said that there will be no large gatherings until 2021 for sport or anything. What is that going to do for City if English clubs can have some supporters but City none at home?
However much money Tan may have this has a good chance of ruining the club financially. But he doesn't care about that, he keeps telling us "people are talking to us and telling us this that and the other" well it certainly isn't anyone I know.

He is so parochial, his aura even when you watch him on TV is dreadful. As a leader he looks and sounds like a tired waiter. If he keeps on he will destroy the welsh economy for years and years to come, with his "Slow and cautious" actions and his "Local" mantra.

[Jordi Culé]

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Did anyone see Mr Drakeford yesterday? He intimated that the 5 mile rule could be enforced for up to 12 more weeks. The man is an idiot. People won't sit still for it when they see what people in England are allowed to do.

He also said that there will be no large gatherings until 2021 for sport or anything. What is that going to do for City if English clubs can have some supporters but City none at home?
However much money Tan may have this has a good chance of ruining the club financially. But he doesn't care about that, he keeps telling us "people are talking to us and telling us this that and the other" well it certainly isn't anyone I know.

He is so parochial, his aura even when you watch him on TV is dreadful. As a leader he looks and sounds like a tired waiter. If he keeps on he will destroy the welsh economy for years and years to come, with his "Slow and cautious" actions and his "Local" mantra.

Is the majority of the population adhering to the ‘5 mile local’ rule then?

I don’t think City are high in his list of priorities butt.

[xsnaggle]

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Is the majority of the population adhering to the ‘5 mile local’ rule then?

I don’t think City are high in his list of priorities butt.

I know they are not (And that answers both your questions lol)
But when it becomes clear will he give in or tell the police to be more aggressive with their fines. The thing with football goes back to what I said some time ago when he first diverged from what England was doing. It is a mind set of some people that anything that is pleasurable must be wrong and if they can stop it they should. Some people believe that all pubs should be closed and never allowed to reopen, and it is those kinds of people who tend to be most vociferous and "talk" to the government. They don't care if it ruins businesses and people livelihood because it doesn't affect them. As I said, he is parochial. Sadly he is in the position where he has the last word. I think, although I don't know many of the AMs but there must be better than him, and I beleive that in this situation he is probably the worst person we could have in charge.

[Heisenberg]

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Some people believe that all pubs should be closed and never allowed to reopen

You keep saying this but I've literally never heard it uttered by a single person.

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You keep saying this but I've literally never heard it uttered by a single person.

Me neither, why would people want that even if they don't go to pubs?

[Rjk]

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You keep saying this but I've literally never heard it uttered by a single person.

some people are saying the world is flat, 5G causes coronavirus and lizards control the world

[xsnaggle]

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Me neither, why would people want that even if they don't go to pubs?

you should try living in a place like Llandaff lol. The other day someone called the police because the pub was serving take-away beers and they objected to people walking in the street carrying beer police came and agreed with the landlord that he was within his right but asked him to stop "For now" because "these people" will call everyone in any authority to make it happen and just cause more trouble. Believe me there are a lot of very sad and miserable people in this place