Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[the other bob wilson]

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What I don't get about the events of the last few weeks is why are numbers increasing now when for quite a while after shops, pubs, restaurants etc opened and people were allowed to meet up in other's homes the downward trend was continuing? Youngsters are getting the blame for the upward trend, but it seems to me that throughout the summer, there were plenty of instances where young and older people were gathering groups which ran into four figures and yet there was nothing like the dramatic increases seen recently.

I always thought problems would arise once people were allowed to drink inside pubs. I saw an article written a few days before pubs reopened about how drinking habits would have to change and people would have to limit themselves to just a small number of drinks and thinking that's never going to happen. Possibly more than any other country, UK citizens go out to get pissed and with that the control which would have you following social distancing regulations at the start of your night would gradually disappear. So, I'd argue that has something to do with the increases but, as I mentioned, pubs were open for a while without seeing a big increase in new cases.

We were told that September should be a fairly quiet month before autumn hit and the traditional flu season began, but, with August being something of a wash out, has autumn/winter started early this year and could that be a factor - it certainly has had a bit of an autumnal feel lately.

[goats]

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there will be predetermined acceptance criteria for the trial, and you have to consider that one adverse reaction in however many vaccines they've trialled so far could scale up to a lot when. you roll it out to millions of people

There is always a person who is allergic to something though isn’t there?
I really wouldn’t know how many people can meet up in Wales now anyway, is it 10 or 2 families? I can see bars being shut down to stop the 18-30’s spreading it this winter. It’s going to be tough for that age group.

[goats]

Re: Coronavirus update

What I don't get about the events of the last few weeks is why are numbers increasing now when for quite a while after after shops, pubs, restaurants etc opened and people were allowed to meet up in other's homes the downward trend was continuing? Youngsters are getting the blame for the upward trend, but it seems to me that throughout the summer, there were plenty of instances where young and older people were gathering groups which ran into four figures and yet there was nothing like the dramatic increases seen recently.

I always thought problems would arise once people were allowed to drink inside pubs. I saw an article written a few days before pubs reopened about how drinking habits would have to change and people would have to limit themselves to just a small number of drinks and thinking that's never going to happen. Possibly more than any other country, UK citizens go out to get pissed and with that the control which would have you following social distancing regulations at the start of your night would gradually disappear. So, I'd argue that has something to do with the increases but, as I mentioned, pubs were open for a while without seeing a big increase in new cases.

We were told that September should be a fairly quiet month before autumn hit and the traditional flu season began, but, with August being something of a wash out, has autumn/winter started early this year and could that be a factor - it certainly has had a bit of an autumnal feel lately.

It is strange, schools only started 2 days ago so can’t be that, students aren’t really here yet or just arriving now.

[jon1959]

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It is strange, schools only started 2 days ago so can’t be that, students aren’t really here yet or just arriving now.

Schools could be a factor in England. Most of them started last week or the week before.

We have got a big secondary school over the road from us and a big primary school behind. For well over a week the super-spreaders and their parents have been swarming twice a day with a handful of masks and bugger all social isolation!

[the other bob wilson]

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Schools could be a factor in England. Most of them started last week or the week before.

We have got a big secondary school over the road from us and a big primary school behind. For well over a week the super-spreaders and their parents have been swarming twice a day with a handful of masks and bugger all social isolation!

Scotland's figures started going up after a long period where new cases were very low and deaths almost non existent around the same time as they went back to school in mid August, but there is little being said about schools being behind the increase when I would have thought it would be something that would be easy to identify if it were the cause - of course, it may be that Governments would not want the news in the public domain even if it was happening, given the political fall out if they were to have to close again.

[Wales-Bales]

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Did this story go anywhere? I didn't see anybody comment on it, and the media haven't picked up on it as far as I know.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8679307/Experts-say-USs-coronavirus-positivity-rate-high-tests-sensitive.html

[Rjk]

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Scotland's figures started going up after a long period where new cases were very low and deaths almost non existent around the same time as they went back to school in mid August, but there is little being said about schools being behind the increase when I would have thought it would be something that would be easy to identify if it were the cause - of course, it may be that Governments would not want the news in the public domain even if it was happening, given the political fall out if they were to have to close again.

the cases they've had in Scotland have not been associated with schools though. the few cases they've had in schools have been teachers who have caught it elsewhere transmitting it to other teachers

[Rjk]

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There is always a person who is allergic to something though isn’t there?

I'm pretty sure they would have thought of that when they were designing the clinical trials tbh.

[Bluebina]

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What I don't get about the events of the last few weeks is why are numbers increasing now when for quite a while after shops, pubs, restaurants etc opened and people were allowed to meet up in other's homes the downward trend was continuing? Youngsters are getting the blame for the upward trend, but it seems to me that throughout the summer, there were plenty of instances where young and older people were gathering groups which ran into four figures and yet there was nothing like the dramatic increases seen recently.

I always thought problems would arise once people were allowed to drink inside pubs. I saw an article written a few days before pubs reopened about how drinking habits would have to change and people would have to limit themselves to just a small number of drinks and thinking that's never going to happen. Possibly more than any other country, UK citizens go out to get pissed and with that the control which would have you following social distancing regulations at the start of your night would gradually disappear. So, I'd argue that has something to do with the increases but, as I mentioned, pubs were open for a while without seeing a big increase in new cases.

We were told that September should be a fairly quiet month before autumn hit and the traditional flu season began, but, with August being something of a wash out, has autumn/winter started early this year and could that be a factor - it certainly has had a bit of an autumnal feel lately.

Could this be the backlash from the Summer Holidays, both in the UK people mixing and moving from one area to another, and maybe drinking and relaxing in a pub indoors in say Cornwall?

Also people going flying in and out of the Country going to Spain, France, Zante and the rest of Greece and the World, no doubt this will have added to the spread of the virus?

[goats]

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the cases they've had in Scotland have not been associated with schools though. the few cases they've had in schools have been teachers who have caught it elsewhere transmitting it to other teachers

Teachers need to be tested every week I’d say. Appears they are the issue. No way can schools be shut again

[lisvaneblue]

Re: Coronavirus update

What I don't get about the events of the last few weeks is why are numbers increasing now when for quite a while after shops, pubs, restaurants etc opened and people were allowed to meet up in other's homes the downward trend was continuing? Youngsters are getting the blame for the upward trend, but it seems to me that throughout the summer, there were plenty of instances where young and older people were gathering groups which ran into four figures and yet there was nothing like the dramatic increases seen recently.

I always thought problems would arise once people were allowed to drink inside pubs. I saw an article written a few days before pubs reopened about how drinking habits would have to change and people would have to limit themselves to just a small number of drinks and thinking that's never going to happen. Possibly more than any other country, UK citizens go out to get pissed and with that the control which would have you following social distancing regulations at the start of your night would gradually disappear. So, I'd argue that has something to do with the increases but, as I mentioned, pubs were open for a while without seeing a big increase in new cases.

We were told that September should be a fairly quiet month before autumn hit and the traditional flu season began, but, with August being something of a wash out, has autumn/winter started early this year and could that be a factor - it certainly has had a bit of an autumnal feel lately.

Wales continues with the upward trend and it's becoming more general...165 cases reported today, 33 Caerphilly, 18 Newport, 22 North Wales, 13 Cardiff, 12 Merthyr, 16 neath/Port Talbot/Swansea, 20 Rhondda

[goats]

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Wales continues with the upward trend and it's becoming more general...165 cases reported today, 33 Caerphilly, 18 Newport, 22 North Wales, 13 Cardiff, 12 Merthyr, 16 neath/Port Talbot/Swansea, 20 Rhondda

13 cases in a county of over half a million......stock up on the bog roll eh? Ffs.....

[the other bob wilson]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54084083

[Michael Morris]

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Wales continues with the upward trend and it's becoming more general...165 cases reported today, 33 Caerphilly, 18 Newport, 22 North Wales, 13 Cardiff, 12 Merthyr, 16 neath/Port Talbot/Swansea, 20 Rhondda

And how many of those have been hospitalised and how many have died?

And how do those numbers compare with other more established illnesses.

Isn’t the time coming where we live with the virus rather than try to hide from it

[qccfc]

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My Daughter has been off school with a sore throat this week (not a Covid symptom), but my wife's place of work have insisted that she cannot come back to work until she has a negative test.

It took us as 2 people 2 days of constant refreshing online to finally get a test in a location that wouldn't have involved a drive to Barnstable or Aberystwyth. During this time we walked to our nearest center and shouted over the wall to check if a previous registration had come through (it hadn't) and that it takes 4 hours for a booking to register. However he said once that registration is in you can come back at any time, because there is never anyone here.

Had the test today, and are awaiting the results. The booking system doesn't feel like anywhere near up to scratch.