Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Hilts]

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And how many of those have been hospitalised and how many have died?

And how do those numbers compare with other more established illnesses.

Isn’t the time coming where we live with the virus rather than try to hide from it

If you mean going back to normal then no.

[Wales-Bales]

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Did this story go anywhere? I didn't see anybody comment on it, and the media haven't picked up on it as far as I know.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sensitive.html

Experts saying 9 out of 10 tests could be wrong? Doesn't it have to be shown that this is either the case or it isn't?

[xsnaggle]

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Prof Witty said that the rise in positive tests is mainly in the 17 - 21 yr old range from lack of keeping to the rules, but those people are then going back home and giving it to older people, and that is the real problem

The youngsters will probably get a mild dose and not even notice but the older folks could end up in intensive care and swamp the hospitals again.

[life on mars]

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Experts saying 9 out of 10 tests could be wrong? Doesn't it have to be shown that this is either the case or it isn't?

What worries me is the death rate I'm told by a health worker that some poorly patients who were near death with terminal diseases were accounted for on death certificates as Covid, during the frenziness of the pandemic ??

From Metro """It’s important to note that flu and pneumonia deaths were lower than average during the pandemic, which may be down to people succumbing to coronavirus when they would have normally died from those illnesses.""


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/12/nearly-five-times-people-dying-flu-pneumonia-coronavirus-13118709/?ito=cbshare

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

[goats]

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Experts saying 9 out of 10 tests could be wrong? Doesn't it have to be shown that this is either the case or it isn't?

Some are just saying you’ve had a cold or another coronavirus

[goats]

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What worries me is the death rate I'm told by a health worker that some poorly patients who were near death with terminal diseases were accounted for on death certificates as Covid, during the frenziness of the pandemic ??

From Metro """It’s important to note that flu and pneumonia deaths were lower than average during the pandemic, which may be down to people succumbing to coronavirus when they would have normally died from those illnesses.""


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/12/nearl...9/?ito=cbshare

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

Somethings not quite right about all this... I’ve heard a few times that people who had terminal diseases had Covid put down as cause of death when really it was cancer or pneumonia

[goats]

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And how many of those have been hospitalised and how many have died?

And how do those numbers compare with other more established illnesses.

Isn’t the time coming where we live with the virus rather than try to hide from it

There are no Covid patients in the Heath at the moment, yet I’m not sure the hospital is up and running again saving the lives of far more people who are no doubt avoiding going there at all costs.

[Jordi Culé]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/09/boris-johnson-pinning-hopes-on-covid-testing-moonshot-leaked-papers-show

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/09/what-is-no-10s-moonshot-covid-testing-plan-and-is-it-feasible

Boris got this under control.



What a ****ing looper.

[lisvaneblue]

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And how many of those have been hospitalised and how many have died?

And how do those numbers compare with other more established illnesses.

Isn’t the time coming where we live with the virus rather than try to hide from it

We are capable of living with the virus but many people have a 'not me' attitude and do not follow the rules...handwashing, social distancing, good ventilation..all straightforward stuff.

Got on a 'Valleys Line' train a couple of weeks ago. Some without masks, some ignoring distancing rules, only one window open in the carriage, ....

Yesterday at the fishmonger in Cardiff market, had to ask a couple why they had to rub shoulders with me in order to select some fish.

And we all know about 'illegal' gatherings, crowds outside and inside Clubs, and an inept police force that just seems to look on

[the other bob wilson]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ed-papers-show

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/09/what-is-no-10s-moonshot-covid-testing-plan-and-is-it-feasible

Boris got this under control.



What a ****ing looper.

Just been listening to a scientist on the radio saying that this "moonshot" scheme could feasibly work, but it just sounds so Johnson doesn't it? An announcement made about some grandiose scheme, stacks of media coverage and then, just as with the tracing app and the world beating track and trace system, it fizzles out into either mediocrity or non existence. When he was Lord Mayor of London, they were vanity projects which had little effect on people's lives, but the stakes are completely different now and people's lives are at stake.

When has one of Johnson's predictions regarding Covid been shown to be correct? He and his party still enjoy the support of millions, but I would suggest that, when it comes to the virus, they do not have the confidence of the country because of a combination of bungling and the clear breach of trust created by the Dominic Cummings episode.

The devolved Governments of the other home countries appear to have retained the trust of most people and back in March when Johnson addressed the country about the virus, polls showed that a large majority were behind him, but now the reaction will be different I feel - on Tuesday, a Government Minister admitted to the Commons that Johnson's Government were proposing to break international law when it comes to Brexit and a day later he's threatening people with fines if they do not obey laws that come in on Monday, it's not a good look.

[blue matt]

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What worries me is the death rate I'm told by a health worker that some poorly patients who were near death with terminal diseases were accounted for on death certificates as Covid, during the frenziness of the pandemic ??

From Metro """It’s important to note that flu and pneumonia deaths were lower than average during the pandemic, which may be down to people succumbing to coronavirus when they would have normally died from those illnesses.""


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/12/nearl...9/?ito=cbshare

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

I know someone who uncle went in with pneumonia ( he suffers alot with it ), while they were treating it, he tested + for covid19, he recovered from that and went home, a number of week later he has rushed back in with pneumonia again

he doesnt make it , the death certificate said he died of Covid19 ? ? ? ? despite he testing negative for it and returning home

[lardy]

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I know someone who uncle went in with pneumonia ( he suffers alot with it ), while they were treating it, he tested + for covid19, he recovered from that and went home, a number of week later he has rushed back in with pneumonia again

he doesnt make it , the death certificate said he died of Covid19 ? ? ? ? despite he testing negative for it and returning home

You mean they tested him a second time for covid and then he was negative?

[blue matt]

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You mean they tested him a second time for covid and then he was negative?

yes the 2nd test was negative and he went home

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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yes the 2nd test was negative and he went home

Isn't this a case where the initial symptoms of Covid had dispersed but the damage caused by the virus were still present? The two people I know who had Covid months ago are still not back to full health.

[xsnaggle]

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This whole thing about cause of death is just because of the reporting so far as I understand the rules.
Covid 19 is a 'reportable' disease so if there any suspicion of the virus being present or causal then the doctor certifying death must state it on the death certificate. He has no choice.