Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Rjk]

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110 new cases in Wales today - quite a big reduction

[goats]

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Yeah it definitely seems to have become less deadly - unless its just now its circulating in people in their 20s who've been out socialising, whereas previously it was running rampant in nursing homes

Possibly, but no doubt most 17-25 year olds probably still live at home? So with older parents....are they getting it? Or is this just a load of media nonsense whilst the powers that be continue to shut down the nhs for mere mortals......

[Rjk]

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Possibly, but no doubt most 17-25 year olds probably still live at home? So with older parents....are they getting it? Or is this just a load of media nonsense whilst the powers that be continue to shut down the nhs for mere mortals......

what do you mean shut down the NHS for mere mortals?

[goats]

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110 new cases in Wales today - quite a big reduction

Ffs I just filled my vw van with bog roll and long life milk......

[Rjk]

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Ffs I just filled my vw van with bog roll and long life milk......

Could just be due to not enough tests being available

[Rjk]

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New cases in Caerphilly and Merthyr seem to have dropped a lot - now RCT has the most new

[Rjk]

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possibly because they've done twice as many tests in RCT as any other part of wales

[Rjk]

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More than 600 people in Swansea and Neath Port Talbot took a test and none of them had the virus.

[Dorcus]

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I think you are incorrect. Both the Scottish and Welsh Administrations rely almost exclusively on the "little team of dopes" to provide scientific and medical advice. All that has happened is that the Scots and Welsh have put their own spin on the information which, in the case of Scotland in particular, is politically driven and is as much about conveying an image of independence as much as anything else. However, I agree the test and trace arrangements are farcical. I live in Devon; people are being told to go 20 miles for a test but then discover Swansea is 20 miles by sea but a 300 miles round trip by road. It's a joke.

No I'm not incorrect. Both the Welsh and the Scottish Government have the same access to Sage advice as PHE. Yes, part of their reaction might be politically driven but, let's be fair it's not too difficult to be more effective than the team of little dopes anyway, which incidentally is probably the least pragmatic administration anyone can ever remember.

There's no coincidence that the UK, US and Brazil have hugely disproportionate covid death figures per capita; all are governed by right wing zealots completely out of their death. The very fact other countries such as Germany et al have much lower death results indicates it's a gross fallacy to say no other administration could have performed better than the merry band of little dopes.

[xsnaggle]

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Now if I were looking to score party political points (heaven forbid!), I could say that all of those good news stories relate to NHS Wales which, as the UK Government never cease to tell is when something goes wrong with it, is run by the Welsh Government. On the other hand, I believe that the running and administration of testing centres and the test and trace system in England and Wales is the responsibility of the UK Government - xsnaggle went off on one as if I was being critical of those who work in test centres, I wouldn't do that - it looks to me as if the administration of them is the problem.

But the day to day administration of them is down to the local NHS TRUST in whos area they are operating.

[goats]

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what do you mean shut down the NHS for mere mortals?

Well the fact they don’t plan to open it up for routine surgery’s until April apparently, I think they’ve started doing the ones that kill the most people thankfully. The car park in Heath park is still closed to the general public, it was supposedly closed for Covid but there’s no Covid there....

[goats]

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More than 600 people in Swansea and Neath Port Talbot took a test and none of them had the virus.

Crikey, I wonder how many they did in Cardiff to get 14 positives?

[Rjk]

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Crikey, I wonder how many they did in Cardiff to get 14 positives?

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[Vindec]

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No I'm not incorrect. Both the Welsh and the Scottish Government have the same access to Sage advice as PHE. Yes, part of their reaction might be politically driven but, let's be fair it's not too difficult to be more effective than the team of little dopes anyway, which incidentally is probably the least pragmatic administration anyone can ever remember.

There's no coincidence that the UK, US and Brazil have hugely disproportionate covid death figures per capita; all are governed by right wing zealots completely out of their death. The very fact other countries such as Germany et al have much lower death results indicates it's a gross fallacy to say no other administration could have performed better than the merry band of little dopes.

The Welsh and Scots do have the SAGE information and both governments have broadly followed the lines taken in England with tweaks around the edges all locking down at broadly the same time, the quarantine arrangements are not dissimilar and this second semi lockdown is not that dissimilar either in all 3 countries. The Welsh and Scots are consulted by the Whitehall civil servants and at government level prior to decisions being made so how come they are not doing things that differently? I disagree that the WElsh and Scots are doing better. Let's face it all are doing badly especially with regard to test and trace as I mentioned earlier. Let's leave it there as we can argue about this all afternoon and I have better things to do.