Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[ccfc_is_my_life]

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Drakeford is, as you can see, backed up with the lowest infection rate in the country. But, yes, if you look at it simplistically and without factual evidence it may appear that he is acting out of spite.

The 5 mile guideline cannot be policed, but if the majority of people are following it then it will have an impact. I believe you can travel further than 5 miles for work purposes.

Missing the point.

If Drakeford is saying he won't lift the "rule" NOW because the virus is "not at an end" then he cannot then state that the rule will be lifted on July 6th because the virus will pretty ****ing obviously not be at an end at that point.

He's giving a bogus rationale for not lifting it now and contradicting that rationale in the same press conference...

People are taking the piss distance wise and policing isn't happening. Neighbour has had a regular stream of visitors thoroughout lockdown, no social distancing. Spoke to a PCSO and was told unless it's clear long distance travel or is a group of more than six people, they can't really do anything - people can then claim they are delivering food / medicine and police have to prove otherwise.

I believe you can travel to work more than 5 miles. That just shows how ridiculous the rule is.

[CCFCC3PO]

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Missing the point.

If Drakeford is saying he won't lift the "rule" NOW because the virus is "not at an end"

That isn't what he said.

[delmbox]

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That's excellent to be fair

[Baloo]

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Is the figure in brackets the range? if so why is it so wide in Wales (0.1-0.9)?

[ccfc_is_my_life]

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That isn't what he said.

It's what he said in the link Bob posted...

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...dates-18449324

Wales First Minister Mark Drakeford has confirmed that the "stay local" five-mile rule will end on July 6

On Friday morning, he set out the timetable for Wales as restrictions are lifted over the next three weeks.

For the last few weeks people in Wales have been asked to not travel more than five miles from home, but that is set to end in two weeks time.

But those restrictions will be lifted in two weeks time and people will be able to travel as far as they want.

Mr Drakeford did say that if you have a compassionate reason to visit someone beyond the local area, that will be allowed but he was not lifting it now as "the virus is not at an end".

[CCFCC3PO]

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It's what he said in the link Bob posted...

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...dates-18449324

Wales First Minister Mark Drakeford has confirmed that the "stay local" five-mile rule will end on July 6

On Friday morning, he set out the timetable for Wales as restrictions are lifted over the next three weeks.

For the last few weeks people in Wales have been asked to not travel more than five miles from home, but that is set to end in two weeks time.

But those restrictions will be lifted in two weeks time and people will be able to travel as far as they want.

Mr Drakeford did say that if you have a compassionate reason to visit someone beyond the local area, that will be allowed but he was not lifting it now as "the virus is not at an end".

He didn't say it in that way. He justified the cautious approach on the fact that the virus hasn't gone away, and highlighted a recent outbreak in North Wales as an example. I didn't think he was joining the dots in the way the article writer joined them.

[xsnaggle]

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He said 6th July ...IF It's not guaranteed.

[Rjk]

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He said 6th July ...IF It's not guaranteed.

Sensible to include the if statement - you wouldn't want to be seen to have to do an embarrassing u-turn whilst trying to manage a crisis.

[Delbert]

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Is the figure in brackets the range? if so why is it so wide in Wales (0.1-0.9)?

The figure in brackets is the confidence interval, the range of values within which there is a 95% probability the true value lies.

The results are derived from the COVID symptom study app combined with swab testing. However swab testing for this study is carried out in England only, not Wales or Scotland. Therefore the results for Wales and Scotland are only an indirect estimate and so are provided with wider confidence limits (the wider confidence limit for East of England is likely due to a smaller sample size compared to the rest of England).

[CCFCC3PO]

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Sensible to include the if statement - you wouldn't want to be seen to have to do an embarrassing u-turn whilst trying to manage a crisis.

Not in Drakeford's case by the looks of it.

School re-opening. So, I was talking to my sister about her son. Their school is opening for 4 weeks, Y1-Y6. However, kids will attend just 1 morning a week (2 days), and there will be no teaching. My sister's conclusion - not worth it (despite her concerns on the effects of his education, 4 morning sessions with no teaching is not going to have an impact on that). Which, I have to say, seems a good decision. It helps protect teachers as we head to September when Social distancing can hopefully be relaxed as cases continue to wane.

However, this needs a real plan. If kids are allowed just 1 or 2 sessions of school a week then that serves no purpose at all. Maybe it needs some out of the box thinking, and maybe the use of offices, night/evening classes to get more regular schooling.

[Hilts]

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Not in Drakeford's case by the looks of it.

School re-opening. So, I was talking to my sister about her son. Their school is opening for 4 weeks, Y1-Y6. However, kids will attend just 1 morning a week (2 days), and there will be no teaching. My sister's conclusion - not worth it (despite her concerns on the effects of his education, 4 morning sessions with no teaching is not going to have an impact on that). Which, I have to say, seems a good decision. It helps protect teachers as we head to September when Social distancing can hopefully be relaxed as cases continue to wane.

However, this needs a real plan. If kids are allowed just 1 or 2 sessions of school a week then that serves no purpose at all. Maybe it needs some out of the box thinking, and maybe the use of offices, night/evening classes to get more regular schooling.

My Daughter has just had her timetable.

She will be in for 3 days in total.

[CCFCC3PO]

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My Daughter has just had her timetable.

She will be in for 3 days in total.

My sister said "It's not normal, it's not even half way to being normal". The school issued a video basically saying "We can't guarantee social distancing will be maintained, that is up to you and your children". I feel sorry for the schools, it's not their decision to re-open and you have to wonder what is going to be achieved by 1 3-hour stint a week.

My nephew has asthma, she has no idea if he is "at risk" or not. But, if he comes home sick, it will be her and us worrying. Result, he isn't going in.

[Jordi Culé]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53105642

**** me, fair play for providing even more incompetence and laughs.

[ccfc_is_my_life]

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Not in Drakeford's case by the looks of it.

School re-opening. So, I was talking to my sister about her son. Their school is opening for 4 weeks, Y1-Y6. However, kids will attend just 1 morning a week (2 days), and there will be no teaching. My sister's conclusion - not worth it (despite her concerns on the effects of his education, 4 morning sessions with no teaching is not going to have an impact on that). Which, I have to say, seems a good decision. It helps protect teachers as we head to September when Social distancing can hopefully be relaxed as cases continue to wane.

However, this needs a real plan. If kids are allowed just 1 or 2 sessions of school a week then that serves no purpose at all. Maybe it needs some out of the box thinking, and maybe the use of offices, night/evening classes to get more regular schooling.

Same for our eldest.

One "day" a week, basically over by lunchtime. No teaching, just making sure everyone is ok kinda thing - odd really, given letter sent by school had details like school dispensing pens, pencils which would be destroyed afterwards. Work still set online. We'll send him to school ( mostly because he's doing our heads in... ) but it smacks of doing almost less than the bare minimum to make it look like schools are opening here.

[goats]

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He said 6th July ...IF It's not guaranteed.

I’m not his greatest fan by any stretch, but he was alluding to the fact if we stay on this trajectory then July 6 will be ok, which is what all the data suggests. He spoke quite well today, having to answer the five mile thing about five times it would seem. Well, I’m off to work in Pembrokeshire Tuesday so I’m ok....