Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Vindec]

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Some better news, although the study only relates to England.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54366478

It's very difficult for me to see much good news in any of the reports that are publicised. So many "experts" have so many differing views it's difficult to make any sense out of them. For example this quote from the BBC article counters the conclusion that cases are slowing down:

"However, Prof Oliver Johnson, from the University of Bristol, said the conclusion that cases were slowing down was "wrong and dangerous".


We expect experts to be more or less on the same page; they look at the same science and figures and conclude differently causing either false hope or exaggerated fears. It must be very difficult for central and regional governments to know what to do next.

[the other bob wilson]

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It's very difficult for me to see much good news in any of the reports that are publicised. So many "experts" have so many differing views it's difficult to make any sense out of them. For example this quote from the BBC article counters the conclusion that cases are slowing down:

"However, Prof Oliver Johnson, from the University of Bristol, said the conclusion that cases were slowing down was "wrong and dangerous".


We expect experts to be more or less on the same page; they look at the same science and figures and conclude differently causing either false hope or exaggerated fears. It must be very difficult for central and regional governments to know what to do next.

If I read it correctly, the previous R value shown for this survey was 1.7, now they're saying it's 1.1 - assuming the criteria used to arrive at these values was the same, it has to be good news doesn't it?

[Vindec]

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If I read it correctly, the previous R value shown for this survey was 1.7, now they're saying it's 1.1 - assuming the criteria used to arrive at these values was the same, it has to be good news doesn't it?

If read in isolation yes. The other "expert", Prof Oliver Johnson said 1.4.

[goats]

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If read in isolation yes. The other "expert", Prof Oliver Johnson said 1.4.

Interesting that Madrid Is locking down again as cases are 800 per 100,000, what is it in cardiff 47? Over cautious here now?

[lardy]

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Interesting that Madrid Is locking down again as cases are 800 per 100,000, what is it in cardiff 47? Over cautious here now?

Their lockdown is also more severe.

[Vindec]

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Interesting that Madrid Is locking down again as cases are 800 per 100,000, what is it in cardiff 47? Over cautious here now?

I heard on the radio this morning that another 0.5m are going into lockdown in North Wales.

[Dorcus]

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Interesting that Madrid Is locking down again as cases are 800 per 100,000, what is it in cardiff 47? Over cautious here now?

Better to be safe than sorry

[goats]

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Better to be safe than sorry

I agree this time, let’s try and nip it in the bud. Maybe we should have a two week circuit breaker where no one is even allowed to move, no shopping, Two weeks off school, really tough. Virus can’t exist if no one moves it.....

[Monster munch]

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I agree this time, let’s try and nip it in the bud. Maybe we should have a two week circuit breaker where no one is even allowed to move, no shopping, Two weeks off school, really tough. Virus can’t exist if no one moves it.....

It was mooted some time ago about the kids October half term being a 2 weeker instead of the normal 1 week.
I think it was to do with a proposal about having a 5 week summer holiday though.
The way the 2nd wave is now progressing it wouldn't be such a bad idea if the numbers keep climbing to just close everything down for 2 weeks. In theory....like the Italians did, just shut it all and everyone stay home. However it would cause absolute bedlam and chaos with the dimwit panic buyers on supermarket sprints and house party enthusiasts who would piss it up for a fortnight.

[Dorcus]

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I agree this time, let’s try and nip it in the bud. Maybe we should have a two week circuit breaker where no one is even allowed to move, no shopping, Two weeks off school, really tough. Virus can’t exist if no one moves it.....

Well done, I agree completely; two weeks is nothing. The people United will never be defeated, and that includes the virus too so let's bog it off.

[goats]

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It is nothing, I’m sure even if we gave the dumbest fwits a choice of two weeks doing nothing at all for a winter and summer of freedom they would take it, well, there’s always a few rugby club boys who wouldn’t conform, but generally most would. Food shopping would be one of the main issues. I’ve got about 2 weeks worth of frozen meals all the time, it’s not difficult but most would struggle with the concept I’m sure. They’d never shut the supermarkets, so it could still spread I guess.....

[the other bob wilson]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54371859

At least the council leader said demand at the site had fallen.

[Rjk]

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I agree this time, let’s try and nip it in the bud. Maybe we should have a two week circuit breaker where no one is even allowed to move, no shopping, Two weeks off school, really tough. Virus can’t exist if no one moves it.....

that was what was supposed to happen last time, although the idea was to get test and trace up to speed before coming out of the lockdown, so you have your circuit breaker then you also stamp out any potential new outbreaks as quickly as possible.
unfortunately the execution of that plan was extremely bad.

[delmbox]

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It is nothing, I’m sure even if we gave the dumbest fwits a choice of two weeks doing nothing at all for a winter and summer of freedom they would take it, well, there’s always a few rugby club boys who wouldn’t conform, but generally most would. Food shopping would be one of the main issues. I’ve got about 2 weeks worth of frozen meals all the time, it’s not difficult but most would struggle with the concept I’m sure. They’d never shut the supermarkets, so it could still spread I guess.....

I think the issue would be that nobody (quite correctly) would believe that a two week circuit break would be the end of it

[xsnaggle]

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I'm surprised this hasn't been metioned:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54371859

although I don't know why it's in the politics section. The Abercynon test centre was the busiest in the UK and last week, (or late in the week before) carried uot 1065 test in 1 day, plus the tests its away teams did in other places.
Now it has been restricted to 400 tests a day because apparently someone had dictated that they don't want people going into Rhondda Cynon Taf to take tests because it is in partial lockdown.
This is insane, you can go in to work or to take your children to school but they are seeking to prevent people going to check if they have a life threatening disease.
Some of these test centres are run by NHS UK and some by NHS Wales and I am not trying to make any political point here. But whoever made this decree is clearly stark raving bonkers.