Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Be amazed at that, most people I know have done it properly

Before the [Wales] lockdown the wife & I walked into town and had a coffee outside a cafe in an arcade. We wore masks, they wore masks, we were 3m at least away from anyone else who either worked there or went there. Absolutely no way we could have been infected at that place, yet if someone who went there within 14 days either side of when we went, gets symptoms, [almost certainly contracted from somewhere else], we will get a phone call instructing us both to stay indoors for 2 weeks and get people to drop of food etc.

Yeah, right.

[Allez Allez Allez]

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So all the positive test were on people who wee not unwell.

To me that's why the figures are used to scare the public. A lot of positive tests does not mean a lot of unwell people.

A lot of positive tests does mean a lot of infectious people who have now been identified and should now be self isolating and not putting vulnerable people at risk.

[Allez Allez Allez]

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We all have differing personal views and health conditions/age, but to suggest we all need to be scared is subjective. Over the past 9 months doctors, Government, media, have all spent hour upon hour every single day trying to scare the population in general. The problem is the overwhelming majority haven't caught it, haven't heard of anyone they know - or remotely know of - getting it, and based on the stats - even those 'tweaked' by the two old gits - don't think they're going to get it. Worry away if you like, I'm not..

I'm perfectly fit and well. I would probably recover with few issues. Shall I tell you what scares me? Me being infectious and not being symptomatic, and passing on a virus to someone who would not do so well if they catch the virus.

[Croesy Blue]

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I'm perfectly fit and well. I would probably recover with few issues. Shall I tell you what scares me? Me being infectious and not being symptomatic, and passing on a virus to someone who would not do so well if they catch the virus.

This is the big point people keep missing.

And they also don’t realise the bigger dose of the virus you get the worse you are so if we let it run riot people will get worse and worse.

Look how many people actually have it already, look how many people are in hospital and dying.

Imagine if we let it run free and loads more people get it. You wouldn’t need that high a percentage to get it for it to cause a load of trouble.

What do we do once a load of essential workers get too sick to work? No one seems to consider how that would affect the economy.

I know plenty of people who’ve had it and a couple who’ve died from it. Maybe using anecdotal evidence when you live in a remote welsh village isn’t always a good idea.

[lardy]

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Before the [Wales] lockdown the wife & I walked into town and had a coffee outside a cafe in an arcade. We wore masks, they wore masks, we were 3m at least away from anyone else who either worked there or went there. Absolutely no way we could have been infected at that place, yet if someone who went there within 14 days either side of when we went, gets symptoms, [almost certainly contracted from somewhere else], we will get a phone call instructing us both to stay indoors for 2 weeks and get people to drop of food etc.

Yeah, right.

It's good that you wore them, but masks aren't a shield of invincibility. You can still touch surfaces with the virus on it.

(Not that I'm defending the app alerts)

[Croesy Blue]

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Masks only lower your chance of getting it by about 10% I think and that’s if it’s worn properly.

The reason we wear masks is they stop us giving it if we are asymptomatic by about 90%.

Thinking you won’t have it because you wore a mask makes me think you don’t really understand it. And unless you drank your coffee through it you really don’t understand it.

[goats]

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Before the [Wales] lockdown the wife & I walked into town and had a coffee outside a cafe in an arcade. We wore masks, they wore masks, we were 3m at least away from anyone else who either worked there or went there. Absolutely no way we could have been infected at that place, yet if someone who went there within 14 days either side of when we went, gets symptoms, [almost certainly contracted from somewhere else], we will get a phone call instructing us both to stay indoors for 2 weeks and get people to drop of food etc.


Yeah, right.

Really? Or just get a test? Which clearly requires a proper system or even better the 30 minute one. You take the test after the warning, you’re clear, life goes on. Sounds simple but they haven’t implemented it yet

[goats]

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I'm perfectly fit and well. I would probably recover with few issues. Shall I tell you what scares me? Me being infectious and not being symptomatic, and passing on a virus to someone who would not do so well if they catch the virus.

If you are responsible for a vulnerable person then I’d imagine you do consider it. My mother turned 88 last week, too risky to do much as ever despite the fact she desperately wanted to see her grand children. We did, but at a distance the whole time. I’m very conscious
Of the fact I could wipe out my own mother....

[Allez Allez Allez]

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If you are responsible for a vulnerable person then I’d imagine you do consider it. My mother turned 88 last week, too risky to do much as ever despite the fact she desperately wanted to see her grand children. We did, but at a distance the whole time. I’m very conscious
Of the fact I could wipe out my own mother....

Sad isn't it? If I am shopping for food I see lots of old folk around. I am conscious that I could pass the virus on. As mentioned earlier, people wear masks to protect themselves. Masks don't protect much. But, they stop onward transmission if worn properly. That means covering the mouth and nose at all times, not taking them off to chat to the girl behind the till.

The problem I see is that people put on a mask and assume invincibility and act carelessly and selfishly. The people most likely to do this are the thickos who think it is just an exercise to scare people.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Before the [Wales] lockdown the wife & I walked into town and had a coffee outside a cafe in an arcade. We wore masks, they wore masks, we were 3m at least away from anyone else who either worked there or went there. Absolutely no way we could have been infected at that place, yet if someone who went there within 14 days either side of when we went, gets symptoms, [almost certainly contracted from somewhere else], we will get a phone call instructing us both to stay indoors for 2 weeks and get people to drop of food etc.

Is that true? I don’t believe it is.

[Rjk]

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Is that true? I don’t believe it is.

Yeah that can't be how it works, or everyone would be getting notifications all of the time

[Croesy Blue]

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Doesn't it work it out based on the bluetooth interactions. And it takes distance and time spent into account. So you're only getting a real notification if you have been close enough to someone for long enough. Again it seems people moaning about things don't have a good grasp on how they actually work.

Why form such strong opinions without trying to understand something first?

I got a random notification a few weeks ago and when I clicked into the app nothing. So I googled it and it said it was a glitch based on how the app was interacting with the phone's software.

It's not ideal but surely anyone getting anything like this is going to double check before isolating.

[Hilts]

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Before the [Wales] lockdown the wife & I walked into town and had a coffee outside a cafe in an arcade. We wore masks, they wore masks, we were 3m at least away from anyone else who either worked there or went there. Absolutely no way we could have been infected at that place, yet if someone who went there within 14 days either side of when we went, gets symptoms, [almost certainly contracted from somewhere else], we will get a phone call instructing us both to stay indoors for 2 weeks and get people to drop of food etc.

Yeah, right.

Complete rubbish.

[Hilts]

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Is that true? I don’t believe it is.

Of course its not true.

The sad thing is people hear stories like that and pass it on and repeat.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Of course its not true.

The sad thing is people hear stories like that and pass it on and repeat.

Self-isolate for 14 days
If you're told to self-isolate by NHS Test and Trace or the NHS COVID-19 app:

self-isolate for 14 days from the day you were last in contact with the person who tested positive for coronavirus – as it can take up to 14 days for symptoms to appear
do not leave your home for any reason – if you need food or medicine, order it online or by phone, or ask friends and family to drop it off at your home
do not have visitors in your home, including friends and family – except for essential care
try to avoid contact with anyone you live with as much as possible
people you live with do not need to self-isolate if you do not have symptoms
people in your support bubble do not need to self-isolate if you do not have symptoms