Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Croesy Blue]

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No it's not. If someone tests positive they're asked for all their contacts - including work, restaurants bars etc., where they have been when they became infected. That can be anytime up to 14 days before the test proved they had Covid19.[ the person may have had symptoms for up to 14 days prior] If they visited the cafe in question during that period, NHS track and trace contacts all those tel numbers of people who have been to the cafe during that period, and are then instructed to self isolate for 14 days. That's what it says on the Govt. webpages - it's not an opinion, it's a fact..

Jesus Christ

[lardy]

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No it's not. If someone tests positive they're asked for all their contacts - including work, restaurants bars etc., where they have been when they became infected. That can be anytime up to 14 days before the test proved they had Covid19.[ the person may have had symptoms for up to 14 days prior] If they visited the cafe in question during that period, NHS track and trace contacts all those tel numbers of people who have been to the cafe during that period, and are then instructed to self isolate for 14 days. That's what it says on the Govt. webpages - it's not an opinion, it's a fact..

Do you really think that's happening for the many tens of thousands of positive cases every week?

[xsnaggle]

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Shirley with so many testing positive but not needing hospitalisation there must be more and more people inthe community who will have antibodies to give them immunity for 4 - 6 months at least.
Seems silly but the more people get it the less people can get it, and more importantly pass it on.
I know that is the principle of herd immunity and I'm not advocating that as a strategy, but maybe it will happen by default. So many people in Merthyr have it now (are testing positive) you'd imagine that in a month or twos time it would be almost impossible to catch it there unless you get really close up and personal.

[Jordi Culé]

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...almost impossible to catch it there unless you get really close up and personal.

Let's hope Welsh Government have the sense to keep the Merthyr women in lockdown then.

[the other bob wilson]

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Shirley with so many testing positive but not needing hospitalisation there must be more and more people inthe community who will have antibodies to give them immunity for 4 - 6 months at least.
Seems silly but the more people get it the less people can get it, and more importantly pass it on.
I know that is the principle of herd immunity and I'm not advocating that as a strategy, but maybe it will happen by default. So many people in Merthyr have it now (are testing positive) you'd imagine that in a month or twos time it would be almost impossible to catch it there unless you get really close up and personal.

It's still only one in three who are being tested who are positive I believe and the rate per 100,000 in Merthyr has gone down a bit in recent days - there's still plenty more people there who've not had it than there are who've had it I bet.

[The Lone Gunman]

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The date for the end of the Welsh lockdown was announced way before England announced the start of theirs so not sure what you're really getting at here

I was being flippant. However, it has often felt (to me at least) that Drakeford and Co are determined to do things differently to Johnson and his minions regardless of the circumstances. After all, if Wales has some of the highest infection rates in the UK, does it make any sense to start relaxing restrictions here? Is that really an example of following the science?

[delmbox]

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I was being flippant. However, it has often felt (to me at least) that Drakeford and Co are determined to do things differently to Johnson and his minions regardless of the circumstances. After all, if Wales has some of the highest infection rates in the UK, does it make any sense to start relaxing restrictions here? Is that really an example of following the science?

I don't want restrictions to continue obviously but it does feel a bit odd going from strict travel restrictions to a 2 week lockdown then just taking the brakes off a bit like's happening Monday. I can't imagine we'll be in a good place in December regardless of what's happened in the last 2 weeks

[goats]

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I don't want restrictions to continue obviously but it does feel a bit odd going from strict travel restrictions to a 2 week lockdown then just taking the brakes off a bit like's happening Monday. I can't imagine we'll be in a good place in December regardless of what's happened in the last 2 weeks

Nevermind that we can all go to the pub again with our mates

[Vindec]

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I don't see how the Welsh government will allow the firebreak to end in Merthyr and other areas with high levels of COVID. That would be thoroughly irresponsible.

In this pandemic governments need to be flexible and not make statements saying restrictions should end on a particular date come what may. So, is Drakeford saying the firebreak will end on Monday irrespective of the number of COVID cases?

[goats]

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I don't see how the Welsh government will allow the firebreak to end in Merthyr and other areas with high levels of COVID. That would be thoroughly irresponsible.

In this pandemic governments need to be flexible and not make statements saying restrictions should end on a particular date come what may. So, is Drakeford saying the firebreak will end on Monday irrespective of the number of COVID cases?

They certainly lose a lot of respect if they do. It’s not following the science is it.....

[xsnaggle]

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They certainly lose a lot of respect if they do. It’s not following the science is it.....

That is the problem he has, there was never any caveat on it, it was an absolute statement by him and Gethin. The lockdown will end on Monday. They have also said there will be no more local lockdowns, that they will in future use whole nation actions.
so where that leaves them on Monday morning I really don't know!

[Gofer Blue]

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That is the problem he has, there was never any caveat on it, it was an absolute statement by him and Gethin. The lockdown will end on Monday. They have also said there will be no more local lockdowns, that they will in future use whole nation actions.
so where that leaves them on Monday morning I really don't know!

They were crazy to do that. By their own admission they said that the effects of the 2 week lockdown would take a further week or two to manifest themselves. All they had to do was to say that they reserved the right to extend the lockdown in the hotspot areas. How do we know that the majority of people in Merthyr for example might not indeed be happy to extend the lockdown there for their own safety? Obviously there will be those freethinkers in "Trump mode" who couldn't care less about the effect on their neighbours!

[Hilts]

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That is the problem he has, there was never any caveat on it, it was an absolute statement by him and Gethin. The lockdown will end on Monday. They have also said there will be no more local lockdowns, that they will in future use whole nation actions.
so where that leaves them on Monday morning I really don't know!

Im sure I heard a interview in the last few days saying if there was something exceptional locally then they may do something.

[Hilts]

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They were crazy to do that. By their own admission they said that the effects of the 2 week lockdown would take a further week or two to manifest themselves. All they had to do was to say that they reserved the right to extend the lockdown in the hotspot areas. How do we know that the majority of people in Merthyr for example might not indeed be happy to extend the lockdown there for their own safety? Obviously there will be those freethinkers in "Trump mode" who couldn't care less about the effect on their neighbours!

Plus the people in areas of high cases can now travel outside their area. Just in time for Christmas shopping.