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I thought they had denied the conspiracy theory that it originated from a laboratory in Wuhan, not that the virus originated in Wuhan.Originally posted by goats View PostAmazed to see reports over the weekend that the Chinese government are still denying the virus started in China (wuhan).....let’s hope one day the truth comes out whatever it is
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I’m sure they know how most vaccines operate though, as they’ve been about quite some timeOriginally posted by Allez Allez Allez View PostCases have been rising at an alarming rate for months.
As for the vaccine. What we know. Both vaccines produce a certain level of immunity when the second dose is administered 21 days after the first.
What we don't know. The level of immunity if the first dose is administered 84 days after the first.
The Government has decided to go with the thing we don't know, rather than the thing we do know.
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I think the aim, and it is a perfectly reasonable one, is to stop people getting really ill and in dosing as many people as possible they will help relieve pressure on hospitals.Originally posted by The Bloop View PostThe cynic in me (that's a big part) thinks the gap extension between doses is purely a government attempt to reduce the R rate. Someone somewhere has done a few calculations that shows having twice as many people with ~54% immunity is more effective in reducing the R rate than half of them having ~94%.
My concern is that this has no data during trials, and so we may find countries (just UK at present) advocating a longer schedule have a lower efficacy than other countries. This could potentially mean us having to revaccinate much earlier than necessary. Potentially of course, it is also potentially possible that this turns out to work fine.
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Yet again hes late in taking action. Hancock was pathetic on TV this morning.
I wonder if football will stop soon?
The British Boxing Board have taken action and events suspended for a month.
Time for football to take action as well.?
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There is evidence that the Oxford vaccine will do OK with up to a 12 week window between jabs. Also evidence is that after 1 dose even those who got Covid didn't need hospitalisation.Originally posted by Allez Allez Allez View PostI think the aim, and it is a perfectly reasonable one, is to stop people getting really ill and in dosing as many people as possible they will help relieve pressure on hospitals.
My concern is that this has no data during trials, and so we may find countries (just UK at present) advocating a longer schedule have a lower efficacy than other countries. This could potentially mean us having to revaccinate much earlier than necessary. Potentially of course, it is also potentially possible that this turns out to work fine.
The Pfizer vaccine is different in that there is no evidence how or if a 12 week gap between jabs will work. No one knows how long immunity lasts after one jab because in trials a second dose was given after 3 weeks.
If Pfizer turned up at the MHRA with their trial data and asked if it could be approved to give a second dose after 12 weeks, they would be shown the door and told to come back when they have some evidence of effectiveness
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