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  • Re: The New Iron Lady

    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I bet my ass that in 6 months all the goons are clapping the govt on question time

    What a load of cobblers
    I thought that after all the Covid stuff. Then party-gate. Then every drama since. I don't think the negativity towards this government is going to stop until they're gone because they just keep fuelling the fire Starmer must think it's the easiest job he's ever had

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    • Re: The New Iron Lady

      Originally posted by DryCleaning View Post
      If you're cutting top rates of tax you do it when the economy is buoyant, wages are rising and confidence is high.

      You don't do it during a cost of living crisis.

      They misjudged the room, that's for sure
      “Misjudged the room” is shouting WAHEY! by yourself when a waiter drops a glass in a slightly fancy restaurant.

      This is a full on cock up.

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      • Re: The New Iron Lady

        If it was just a "distraction", why bother with it in the first place? Although I can't believe I'm writing that £2 billion is nothing, it really isn't in terms of Government finances when you see what was spent on the furlough scheme and in capping energy prices. The reason surely has to be that the dropping of the 45 per cent tax rate gave us a look into the hearts and minds of Truss and Kwarteng. You only had to watch Kwarteng's budget speech where he produced his announcement of his great giveaway to the richest at the end of it with a flourish which told you he was thinking this would "shock and awe" - that's a term we heard a lot of in the build up to his speech - well it did shock and awe, but only because it showed how inept a supposedly very bright man really was!

        No, the tax rate reduction for the very richest was a pet project for Truss and Kwarteng - a move supposed to set them apart from the more boring wings of their party, a move which was meant to have all of those free market thinktanks which have too much influence these days cheering wildly.

        I've just been listening to one of the BBC's political correspondents who said that they always get a brief run down of what a Minister or Shadow Minister's speech to conference is going to say the night before and Kwarteng's was going to be all about him pressing on with the whole of the "fiscal event", but it seems that the interventions of the likes of Gove and Shapps have proved pivotal.

        Truss and Kwarteng have both been saying "we get it" this morning - bollox, they don't get it and they never will (although I suppose we shouldn't rule out a switch to Labour or the Greens by Truss in the next few months).

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        • Re: The New Iron Lady

          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
          If it was just a "distraction", why bother with it in the first place? Although I can't believe I'm writing that £2 billion is nothing, it really isn't in terms of Government finances when you see what was spent on the furlough scheme and in capping energy prices. The reason surely has to be that the dropping of the 45 per cent tax rate gave us a look into the hearts and minds of Truss and Kwarteng. You only had to watch Kwarteng's budget speech where he produced his announcement of his great giveaway to the richest at the end of it with a flourish which told you he was thinking this would "shock and awe" - that's a term we heard a lot of in the build up to his speech - well it did shock and awe, but only because it showed how inept a supposedly very bright man really was!

          No, the tax rate reduction for the very richest was a pet project for Truss and Kwarteng - a move supposed to set them apart from the more boring wings of their party, a move which was meant to have all of those free market thinktanks which have too much influence these days cheering wildly.

          I've just been listening to one of the BBC's political correspondents who said that they always get a brief run down of what a Minister or Shadow Minister's speech to conference is going to say the night before and Kwarteng's was going to be all about him pressing on with the whole of the "fiscal event", but it seems that the interventions of the likes of Gove and Shapps have proved pivotal.

          Truss and Kwarteng have both been saying "we get it" this morning - bollox, they don't get it and they never will (although I suppose we shouldn't rule out a switch to Labour or the Greens by Truss in the next few months).
          I was watching that Chris Philip being eviscerated by Kay Burley earlier this morning. I know the Tories are not known to be the sharpest knives in the room but oh boy!!! This guy is on an entirely different level of dim. It crossed my mind he and Lady Dorries could possibly make a fantastic double act for a comedy show.

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          • Re: The New Iron Lady

            Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
            I was watching that Chris Philip being eviscerated by Kay Burley earlier this morning. I know the Tories are not known to be the sharpest knives in the room but oh boy!!! This guy is on an entirely different level of dim. It crossed my mind he and Lady Dorries could possibly make a fantastic double act for a comedy show.
            I can't stand that guy - he's the idiot who sent out a tweet during Kwarteng's speech about how well the pound was doing in response to what the Chancellor was saying

            I did the weekly this morning and on the drive down to Porth, I heard them read out a text on the radio from a man who had lost £20k from his pension fund last week - Philp was appearing on the show later and they said they would ask him what he could say to someone who had seen so much wiped off their funds, but I never got to hear what he had to say in reply (it'd probably be what he normally does, that is ignore the question and talk over the interviewer - I know they all do it, but he's the worst I've come across at it).

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              • Re: The New Iron Lady

                Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                I can't stand that guy - he's the idiot who sent out a tweet during Kwarteng's speech about how well the pound was doing in response to what the Chancellor was saying

                I did the weekly this morning and on the drive down to Porth, I heard them read out a text on the radio from a man who had lost £20k from his pension fund last week - Philp was appearing on the show later and they said they would ask him what he could say to someone who had seen so much wiped off their funds, but I never got to hear what he had to say in reply (it'd probably be what he normally does, that is ignore the question and talk over the interviewer - I know they all do it, but he's the worst I've come across at it).
                He's a complete turd. You're right he wouldn't answer any question directly, he just waffles and obfuscates.

                It turns out he's been pinpointed as the culprit who raised a policy document urging Truss and Kwarteng to ditch the 45% top rate. Try as Burley might to get him to man up and admit he was the policy instigator there was absolutely no way he'd own it. They love dishing it out these Tories but they don't like it up em Cap'n Mannering.

                He now has another headache it appears. Philip has just been barred from involvement in planning and policy interests because of his major stake in a group providing millions of pounds of loans for housing development.

                He's always appeared to me like a frightened little rabbit caught up in the headlights.

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                • Re: The New Iron Lady

                  Originally posted by superfeathers View Post
                  Turns out this lady is for turning
                  Weak
                  More like bitch stewie than an iron lady.

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                  • Re: The New Iron Lady

                    It isn't just an elderly, bald Swiss gentleman who would make for a great Bond villain who's keen to have a reset.

                    Truss says British economy ‘needs a reset’ after market sell-off - https://www.ft.com/content/e5a7281b-...8-ea0c17859caf

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                    • Re: The New Iron Lady

                      After becoming PM Liz Truss hotfooted it to a Conservative Friends of Israel meeting to declare: "I am a huge Zionist, I am a huge supporter of Israel."

                      I think we can take it as read she's never going to mention Israel's nuclear weapons, and will be anxious to retain the favour of an aforementioned elderly, bald Swiss gentleman who has a self-declared penchant for penetrating cabinets.

                      Here she is with the gushing praise - https://www.bitchute.com/video/NwoHsfz3JsIW/

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