The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

[Ninja]

Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

You are using very odd language like .....our own people ......I really can't be engaging with you on this matter I am afraid

Here we fecking go.... OTT much Sludge?
Our own people is in relation to the people who worked their balls off to build what we have. Don't try and turn it into a racial thing like you have with others.
I'm not right-wing or racist.
If you wish to defend such policies, then you are no better than the scum Tories that you claim to hate.

I don't care whether you wish to engage or not Sludge quite frankly. I made a comment, you hopped on it asking for links. I stand by what I've said and the fact that it has nothing whatsoever to do with race hate or right wing extremism.

You can think whatever you like though, of course.

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Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

Here we fecking go.... OTT much Sludge?
Our own people is in relation to the people who worked their balls off to build what we have. Don't try and turn it into a racial thing like you have with others.
I'm not right-wing or racist.
If you wish to defend such policies, then you are no better than the scum Tories that you claim to hate.

I don't care whether you wish to engage or not Sludge quite frankly. I made a comment, you hopped on it asking for links. I stand by what I've said and the fact that it has nothing whatsoever to do with race hate or right wing extremism.

You can think whatever you like though, of course.

It’s a sad state of affairs that politics of recent years has more and more local people on the huggard centre floor, with the only criticism being that refugees are being treated better.

Are we saying the refugees should be there instead? Because that’s certainly what the right wing media of the uk want you to think.

Surely we should be saying that none of them should be. It’s a disgrace in 2022 that anyone is

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Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

Here we fecking go.... OTT much Sludge?
Our own people is in relation to the people who worked their balls off to build what we have. Don't try and turn it into a racial thing like you have with others.
I'm not right-wing or racist.
If you wish to defend such policies, then you are no better than the scum Tories that you claim to hate.

I don't care whether you wish to engage or not Sludge quite frankly. I made a comment, you hopped on it asking for links. I stand by what I've said and the fact that it has nothing whatsoever to do with race hate or right wing extremism.

You can think whatever you like though, of course.

Well you are the one talking about OUR people which wether you like it or not is the language the right wing use ......us and them

Another one is why are we helping these migrants when we have ex soldiers sleeping on the streets?

Look after our own etc etc

As for defending these policies I have no idea what your talking about , if the local council is breaking the law .....string em up

You told me what to Google after the link failed . That's what I did and I read a story about housing migrants . The comments on the article were right wing .

[Ninja]

Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

Well you are the one talking about OUR people which wether you like it or not is the language the right wing use ......us and them

Another one is why are we helping these migrants when we have ex soldiers sleeping on the streets?

Look after our own etc etc

As for defending these policies I have no idea what your talking about , if the local council is breaking the law .....string em up

You told me what to Google after the link failed . That's what I did and I read a story about housing migrants . The comments on the article were right wing .

Your compass has swung so far left in recent years that you're running around in circles.

Nothing I said is right wing.
I do not have a "us and them" mentality, I have simply made the point that OUR own family members and friends are suffering whilst foreign immigrants are being treated like royalty by comparison.

Stop deliberately picking apart people's posts and looking for anything even slightly un-PC Sludge, which is exactly what you've done here.

I've certainly never had you down in the past as an extreme lefty, normally think you're better than that, but I suspect maybe your compass needs a slight repair!

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Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

Your compass has swung so far left in recent years that you're running around in circles.

Nothing I said is right wing.
I do not have a "us and them" mentality, I have simply made the point that OUR own family members and friends are suffering whilst foreign immigrants are being treated like royalty by comparison.

Stop deliberately picking apart people's posts and looking for anything even slightly un-PC Sludge, which is exactly what you've done here.

I've certainly never had you down in the past as an extreme lefty, normally think you're better than that, but I suspect maybe your compass needs a slight repair!

I am sorry but this isn't making sense

The thread was about landlords and people renting off them in Cardiff

It was nothing to do with the emergency accommodation provided for refugees, asylum seekers and others or services for them such as catering to their cultural needs

You brought this up and have linked the problem with emergency housing in Cardiff for ....our own people , your words .......and the treatment of refugees

It's completely separate

I am no supporter of crappy housing provision for the homeless of Cardiff of whatever background . You are the person who has a dodgy compass , you are linking two different things and coming up with a right pea soup .

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Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

I am sorry but this isn't making sense

The thread was about landlords and people renting off them in Cardiff

It was nothing to do with the emergency accommodation provided for refugees, asylum seekers and others or services for them such as catering to their cultural needs

You brought this up and have linked the problem with emergency housing in Cardiff for ....our own people , your words .......and the treatment of refugees

It's completely separate

I am no supporter of crappy housing provision for the homeless of Cardiff of whatever background . You are the person who has a dodgy compass , you are linking two different things and coming up with a right pea soup .

I said I consider it a far greater concern.
It's on the same damn topic, housing.
Now stop attacking people for simply using terms like "our own", you left-wing fruitcake

[Doucas]

Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

Many landlords turn run down properties into habital housing which would otherwise be left derelict. Surely that has to be a positive thing.

That could be normal buyers doing that but many can't because buy to let and lack of social housing puts prices up massively.

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Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

Yep cardiff council sold many off

Right to buy ended in 2019.

Cardiff Council would have sold their remaining properties long before this date as a stock transfer to a HA’s in order to remain as social housing.

Cardiff Council as well as HA’s are developing new social housing, but pressures on the construction industry ( not helped yet again by Covid, with people being offsite and people undertaking their own home improvements) therefore significant material uplifts will have caused significant delays to the process.

In 2020/21 there were 3,604 new social rented homes developed (84% developed by social landlords), which is significantly lower than forecasted.

The current demise of the private landlord is also due to the new renting homes act in Wales due to be implemented December 22 (originally July 22), one of the key aspects is the fit for human habitation whereby a tenant has the right to withhold their rent payments if the property is not fit for human habitation. This act is causing many of the private landlords to sell their properties and reducing the rental markets.

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Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

Why is everything a crisis these days

[jon1959]

Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

Right to buy ended in 2019.

Cardiff Council would have sold their remaining properties long before this date as a stock transfer to a HA’s in order to remain as social housing.

Cardiff Council as well as HA’s are developing new social housing, but pressures on the construction industry ( not helped yet again by Covid, with people being offsite and people undertaking their own home improvements) therefore significant material uplifts will have caused significant delays to the process.

In 2020/21 there were 3,604 new social rented homes developed (84% developed by social landlords), which is significantly lower than forecasted.

The current demise of the private landlord is also due to the new renting homes act in Wales due to be implemented December 22 (originally July 22), one of the key aspects is the fit for human habitation whereby a tenant has the right to withhold their rent payments if the property is not fit for human habitation. This act is causing many of the private landlords to sell their properties and reducing the rental markets.

https://statswales.gov.wales/Catalogue/Housing/Dwelling-Stock-Estimates/dwellingstockestimates-by-localauthority-tenure

Cardiff Council sold all its remaining homes before the end of Welsh Right To Buy in 2019? That didn't sound right to me and the table above show they still own and manage just under 13,500 (which is more than the combined Registered Social Landlord - mainly Housing Association - stock in the city).

The number of private rented homes in Cardiff has dropped very slightly in the past few years - unlike the position in England where it has continued to rise as a tenure in absolute numbers and as a percentage of the whole housing stock.

You make it sound as if legally withholding rent on a property that 'is not fit for human habitation' is a bad thing, and driving landlords to sales who would otherwise be maintaining a bigger rental market. Bad private landlords, some of the bigger ones leaching on former Council homes, are a major part of the housing supply and affordability problem in the UK.

[Dorcus]

Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

https://statswales.gov.wales/Catalog...thority-tenure

Cardiff Council sold all its remaining homes before the end of Welsh Right To Buy in 2019? That didn't sound right to me and the table above show they still own and manage just under 13,500 (which is more than the combined Registered Social Landlord - mainly Housing Association - stock in the city).

The number of private rented homes in Cardiff has dropped very slightly in the past few years - unlike the position in England where it has continued to rise as a tenure in absolute numbers and as a percentage of the whole housing stock.

You make it sound as if legally withholding rent on a property that 'is not fit for human habitation' is a bad thing, and driving landlords to sales who would otherwise be maintaining a bigger rental market. Bad private landlords, some of the bigger ones leaching on former Council homes, are a major part of the housing supply and affordability problem in the UK.

If their homes are deemed "not fit for human habitation" then in my view it's morally obligatory on the Government to remove them from the landlords' control and get the landlords' to cough up the dosh for repairs or they get their homes confiscated. Tough love!

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Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

If their homes are deemed "not fit for human habitation" then in my view it's morally obligatory on the Government to remove them from the landlords' control and get the landlords' to cough up the dosh for repairs or they get their homes confiscated. Tough love!

It’s a good thing however the new act is clearly contributing to the housing shortfall, in the short-term at least.
Hopefully the future will result in better quality affordable homes. Personally I think modular house building is the way forward as has been discussed previously.

[HyperboreanCCFC]

Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

I'd be more concerned about the lack of social housing available to locals, and the fact that immigrants are being housed in hotels with their own chefs, whilst locals from the area are being forced to sleep on the floor of the huggard centre.

Well said.

[Alfresco]

Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

Call me old fashion but I was brought up to work for a living and not depend on handouts. Should be no social housing if you want a house work for it.

[Ninja]

Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

Call me old fashion but I was brought up to work for a living and not depend on handouts. Should be no social housing if you want a house work for it.

I won't call you "old fashion", but I will call you an obvious Tory boy