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  • #46
    Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

    Originally posted by Alfresco View Post
    Call me old fashion but I was brought up to work for a living and not depend on handouts. Should be no social housing if you want a house work for it.
    D minus, I think.

    Some credit for the effort of making the post or it would be a straight E


    On the subject of WUMs and WUMing - did you know that Wu Ming is Chinese for 'anonymous', and also the pseudonym for a group of Italian authors formed in 2000 from a subset of the Luther Blissett community in Bologna!

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    • #47
      Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

      Originally posted by Doucas View Post
      That could be normal buyers doing that but many can't because buy to let and lack of social housing puts prices up massively.
      'normal buyers' can buy derelict properties at property auctions if they want to put the work in.

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      • #48
        Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

        Originally posted by Alfresco View Post
        Call me old fashion but I was brought up to work for a living and not depend on handouts. Should be no social housing if you want a house work for it.
        So let's say you work hard to buy a house

        But one afternoon you are cleaning the guttering , fall and break your back

        And end up in a wheelchair

        You can't work and you and your wife and kids have to sell because you are in debt

        So you need somewhere to live

        You need social housing ......the housing you think is for layabouts

        But now you need it

        What are you going to do now ?

        It's your only option

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        • #49
          Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

          Originally posted by HyperboreanCCFC View Post
          Well said.
          It's complete bollocks

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          • #50
            Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

            Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
            It's complete bollocks
            Says the Lefty that was interested in seeing links

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            • #51
              Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

              Originally posted by Ninja View Post
              I won't call you "old fashion", but I will call you an obvious Tory boy
              I was brought up in a house that had no central heating no double glazing just a coal fire, it was still like that when I left home to get married. If my parents had gone down the route of a council house we would have had double glazing and central heating.

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              • #52
                Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

                Originally posted by Alfresco View Post
                I was brought up in a house that had no central heating no double glazing just a coal fire, it was still like that when I left home to get married. If my parents had gone down the route of a council house we would have had double glazing and central heating.
                E minus. Would be an F, but you did try.

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                • #53
                  Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

                  When I started working in housing in the mid 1980s it was still a tenure of choice. One third of the homes in Sheffield were Council homes (about 90,000 back then - down from a peak of over 100,000 in the late 70s). Housing Associations were still at the margins. It is now down to about 35,000.

                  People were generally proud of their rented homes. The fetish with home ownership was around but not as dominant as it became. A lot of homes (houses, flats, maisonettes and bungalows) were well cared for and people put time, money and effort into making them as good as they could be.

                  Back then Councils were more able to ensure repairs were done quickly and there were annual improvement programmes - from central heating to rewiring to new double glazed windows. Tenants Associations were everywhere and active. Local politicians echoed their voters in seeing Council housing as a ladder that people could follow through their lives - from starter flat to family home to OAP bungalow. It was social and collective and affordable. There were few 'sink estates' and most tenants were either in work or retired.

                  Thatcher blew up that model!

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                  • #54
                    Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

                    Originally posted by Ninja View Post
                    Says the Lefty that was interested in seeing links
                    There is no link between people from foreign countries and landlords in Cardiff flogging their houses

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                    • #55
                      Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

                      Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                      When I started working in housing in the mid 1980s it was still a tenure of choice. One third of the homes in Sheffield were Council homes (about 90,000 back then - down from a peak of over 100,000 in the late 70s). Housing Associations were still at the margins. It is now down to about 35,000.

                      People were generally proud of their rented homes. The fetish with home ownership was around but not as dominant as it became. A lot of homes (houses, flats, maisonettes and bungalows) were well cared for and people put time, money and effort into making them as good as they could be.

                      Back then Councils were more able to ensure repairs were done quickly and there were annual improvement programmes - from central heating to rewiring to new double glazed windows. Tenants Associations were everywhere and active. Local politicians echoed their voters in seeing Council housing as a ladder that people could follow through their lives - from starter flat to family home to OAP bungalow. It was social and collective and affordable. There were few 'sink estates' and most tenants were either in work or retired.

                      Thatcher blew up that model!
                      You are wasting your time with some of the feckwits on here I am afraid

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                      • #56
                        Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

                        Originally posted by Alfresco View Post
                        I was brought up in a house that had no central heating no double glazing just a coal fire, it was still like that when I left home to get married. If my parents had gone down the route of a council house we would have had double glazing and central heating.
                        Was that in Litherland?

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                        • #57
                          Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

                          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                          You are wasting your time with some of the feckwits on here I am afraid
                          You're right, what drugs are they on?

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                          • #58
                            Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

                            Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                            When I started working in housing in the mid 1980s it was still a tenure of choice. One third of the homes in Sheffield were Council homes (about 90,000 back then - down from a peak of over 100,000 in the late 70s). Housing Associations were still at the margins. It is now down to about 35,000.

                            People were generally proud of their rented homes. The fetish with home ownership was around but not as dominant as it became. A lot of homes (houses, flats, maisonettes and bungalows) were well cared for and people put time, money and effort into making them as good as they could be.

                            Back then Councils were more able to ensure repairs were done quickly and there were annual improvement programmes - from central heating to rewiring to new double glazed windows. Tenants Associations were everywhere and active. Local politicians echoed their voters in seeing Council housing as a ladder that people could follow through their lives - from starter flat to family home to OAP bungalow. It was social and collective and affordable. There were few 'sink estates' and most tenants were either in work or retired.

                            Thatcher blew up that model!
                            Did you live in social housing at the time?

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                            • #59
                              Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

                              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                              There is no link between people from foreign countries and landlords in Cardiff flogging their houses
                              That didn't seem to bother you at all when you were asking for links to articles Sludge.
                              It only seemed to bother you after you suddenly decided you didn't like the term "our people"... Is that not correct?

                              Let me break it down for you because you're doing my head in with your leftist shit and your inference that I may somehow be right wing....

                              When I refer to "my people", I'm referring to my family and friends. People I care a hell of a lot more about than foreign refugees.

                              When I refer to "our people", it's a very similar concept. My family, your family, the family's of the people posting here, and all our friends.
                              When I refer to "our people", I'm pointing somewhat to the fact that we are obviously all Welsh, and that our grandfather's, great grandfather's etc, are the fabric that Wales was obviously built upon.

                              Their hard work, grafting in the mines etc, and our hard work to sustain what was built and inherited.

                              It's not right fecking wing, no matter how much your left-sided brain wants to try to paint it that way.

                              It's just concern for people that I consider my brethren.

                              For however many years I might exist on this earth, I am never really going to consider some random foreign Charlie that suddenly decides to rock up on these shores, my "brethren" moreso than my own family and friends, not even more than YOUR family and friends.

                              My point was that I feel somewhat aggrieved by the fact that foreigners rock up here and get housed in hotels, whilst "our own" (I know, you love that term...)
                              are getting f*cked by the system, physically and mentally.

                              For the record, one of my best mates committed suicide not long after going through places like the Huggard Centre, not that I would expect you to give half a f*ck mind, your leftist brain thinks it's all good after all...

                              My point may not have been entirely relevant in the context of the thread. However, it wasn't exactly off topic in as much as it's still housing related and absolutely ties in.

                              You clearly didn't think it off topic at the time either, you asked for links ffs...
                              You only decided otherwise when you decided that you didn't like my use of terminology, and it was somehow right wing...

                              I won't continue ranting, I don't wish to drag things down. I think I've made my points, and hopefully you can see the wood for the fecking trees...
                              Have a good evening Sludge, I know you're not a bad bloke... Do yourself a favour though and quit trying to attack people over simple and innocent terminology though eh? We don't have to be extreme fecking left in order to not be extremely right, right,?

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                              • #60
                                Re: The growing crisis facing Cardiff's rental market with landlords selling up and 100 people fighting for every property

                                Originally posted by Alfresco View Post
                                I was brought up in a house that had no central heating no double glazing just a coal fire, it was still like that when I left home to get married. If my parents had gone down the route of a council house we would have had double glazing and central heating.
                                Now you’ve done it…..ps you’d have sky sports too for sure

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