Albania

[Canton Kev]

Re: Albania

Wait is this unplanned? We've gotten back control of our borders no?

[Dorcus]

Re: Albania

Good story. I prefer Jack and beanstalk though.

Is that "I'm allright Jack" Suella?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Albania

All for legal, controlled immigration I believe Bob.

So, is it an “invasion” today or is Jenrick right when he says Ministers have to be careful about the language they use?

[JamesWales]

Re: Albania

So, is it an “invasion” today or is Jenrick right when he says Ministers have to be careful about the language they use?

Language does matter, and it's entirely the wrong word to use. Not least as it's a gift to the opposition who can be outraged over a word instead of actually thinking of solutions to the problem costing us now billions a year.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Albania

Language does matter, and it's entirely the wrong word to use. Not least as it's a gift to the opposition who can be outraged over a word instead of actually thinking of solutions to the problem costing us now billions a year.

So, the use of “invasion” is only wrong for tactical reasons?

[JamesWales]

Re: Albania

So, the use of “invasion” is only wrong for tactical reasons?

No, saying 'not least' doesn't imply that. It's wrong because it's inaccurate and insensitive and also a political mistake because it's allowing her opponents to do as you are doing here - pick up on a word to avoid addressing the far bigger issues.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Albania

No, saying 'not least' doesn't imply that. It's wrong because it's inaccurate and insensitive and also a political mistake because it's allowing her opponents to do as you are doing here - pick up on a word to avoid addressing the far bigger issues.

I just find it funny that when they’re in trouble, the Tories start talking about immigration, it’s as regular as clockwork. The “far bigger issue” as you call it has been largely ignored since 2016 when it was used to help win the Brexit referendum.

[JamesWales]

Re: Albania

I just find it funny that when they’re in trouble, the Tories start talking about immigration, it’s as regular as clockwork. The “far bigger issue” as you call it has been largely ignored since 2016 when it was used to help win the Brexit referendum.

Tbf, and as I've been saying on here for months, the situation has been building all summer. The spark seems to have been some parliamentary committee last week when a lot of facts seeped out which got a lot more media attention.

I agree though, and it's ironic given they have been in power for 12 years, but on dealing with issues like this they will always appear stronger and be comfortable being so.

I imagine numbers arriving this way will see a sharp decline in coming months, so they have a period of time to try and clear the backlog and sort things out, because I don't think the country would tolerate another summer of it tbh.