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[cyril evans awaydays]

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I’m actually making a pint about the impact of lockdown and the excessive deaths which are higher than when we were in a pandemic.

Data here makes interesting reading

https://twitter.com/statsjamie/statu...4KhL1avwXItpxw

What's your evidence for this statement?

[TWGL1]

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What's your evidence for this statement?

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2F2022%2F11%2F01%2Fcrisis-excess-deaths-soar-levels-higher-covid-pandemic%2F

[lardy]

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What's your evidence for this statement?

TWGL1 has given two pieces of evidence today.

Admittedly the first, the BBC article, says in the opening paragraph:

"This represents one of the largest excess death levels outside the pandemic in 50 years.

Though far below peak pandemic levels, it has prompted questions about why more people are still dying than normal."

and the second is a twitter account that compares 2022 with 2015-19 specifically to avoid the pandemic years, but...erm...do your own research?

[cyril evans awaydays]

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https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...id-pandemic%2F

So you based the conclusion on a Telegraph article using one months comparative data. How many people died after being mauled by a dog in those periods out of interest?

[lardy]

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https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...id-pandemic%2F

But that seems to be a bit misleading, as it is comparing the weekly average in one month (October 2022, and not even a full month) with the weekly average of an entire year (2020 or 2021).

[cyril evans awaydays]

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But that seems to be a bit misleading, as it is comparing the weekly average in one month (October 2022, and not even a full month) with the weekly average of an entire year (2020 or 2021).

This from the ONS makes the point.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiYmUwNmFhMjYtNGZhYS00NDk2LWFlMTAtOTg0OGNhNmFiNGM0IiwidCI6ImVlNGUxNDk5LTRhMzUtNGIyZS1hZDQ3LTVmM2NmOWRlODY2NiIsImMiOjh9

[lardy]

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This from the ONS makes the point.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrI...Y2NiIsImMiOjh9

TWGL1 wants to talk about lockdowns, so that data gives a good opportunity to. It shows that in 2020 and 2021 the numbers fluctuated madly, from highs of 10,000+ to below zero (meaning fewer than expected). And a major reason for that is...lockdowns. Those zero months pulled the yearly average way down, so it's not that big a surprise that in 2022 there would be months above the 2020 or 2021 yearly averages.


The purpose of the lockdowns (and obviously I did not enjoy them one bit and worried a lot about the mental impact on my family members before I get called a lockdown fanatic or something else ridiculous) was to stop people dying, and as with just about everything else in life it came with costs.

[Organ Morgan.]

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UK excess deaths are off the scale. The vast majority are non Covid deaths.

Sky News: “We don’t know what is driving those excess deaths.” pic.twitter.com/ebR0SNl7ii

— James Melville (@JamesMelville) January 5, 2023

[the other bob wilson]

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UK excess deaths are off the scale. The vast majority are non Covid deaths.

Sky News: “We don’t know what is driving those excess deaths.” pic.twitter.com/ebR0SNl7ii

— James Melville (@JamesMelville) January 5, 2023

Could a greatly understaffed NHS have something to do with it?

[Organ Morgan.]

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Could a greatly understaffed NHS have something to do with it?

Nah, more likely too much coffee, cold showers, excessive gardening or a number of other 'anything but the clot shots' reasons corporate media have suggested for excess deaths.

I don't doubt eating too much Christmas pud, or singing carols too raucously was the cause of the festive Durham die off.

Things are worsening quickly!

EIGHT sudden deaths in just ONE town on just ONE day!

Meanwhile nobody cares (except you and me)#diedsuddenly https://t.co/PDVkYN5fm2 pic.twitter.com/PJsj1zet1r

— Igor Chudov 🐭 (@ichudov) December 29, 2022

[TWGL1]

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So you based the conclusion on a Telegraph article using one months comparative data. How many people died after being mauled by a dog in those periods out of interest?

Just look at the “permitted” data presented and make your own connection. There is plenty of data slowly being released and rather than trying to point score , why don’t you look at the data yourself.

You asked me to signpost you in the right direction and I have done so.

Go onto Twitter and hashtag excess deaths or go into a search engine and have a look for yourself..

Ultimately,they can’t explain it which in itself speaks volumes.

[Organ Morgan.]

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Just look at the “permitted” data presented and make your own connection. There is plenty of data slowly being released and rather than trying to point score , why don’t you look at the data yourself.

You asked me to signpost you in the right direction and I have done so.

Go onto Twitter and hashtag excess deaths or go into a search engine and have a look for yourself..

Ultimately,they can’t explain it which in itself speaks volumes.

I don't really blame Cyril, Lardy and others for their permanent state of gormlessness re this affair.

Had I been nuts enough to have faith in Pfizer I'd prefer denial too than wonder which of myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attack, clotting or a turbo cancer I'll clock out with.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Just look at the “permitted” data presented and make your own connection. There is plenty of data slowly being released and rather than trying to point score , why don’t you look at the data yourself.

You asked me to signpost you in the right direction and I have done so.

Go onto Twitter and hashtag excess deaths or go into a search engine and have a look for yourself..

Ultimately,they can’t explain it which in itself speaks volumes.

Permitted data, wtf is that?

Point scoring seems to be your phrase for the New Year when you post your thoughts and others take issue with them.

You are asking us to look at stuff on twitter when only a few weeks ago you were lauding ONS data. Now it seems it only presents "permitted" data when it contradicts the stuff you are peddling.

Today you posted a BBC article that showed two pieces of evidence. That most of the excess deaths are in the over 50s and higher proportions of unvaccinated people are dying than vaccinated. Obviously those things don't suit a narrative as with the ONS data so it's off to another lily-pad.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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I don't really blame Cyril, Lardy and others for their permanent state of gormlessness re this affair.

Had I been nuts enough to have faith in Pfizer I'd prefer denial too than wonder which of myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attack, clotting or a turbo cancer I'll clock out with.

Last year, off the top of my head, you gave us:

Giant black-eyed transhuman babies about to appear in their hundreds of thousands;
HIV in Vaccines;
Putin a black-belt Mason because he wore a robe imprinted with lotus flowers;
Australians bombarded with radiation by police at demos;
£1300 Primark coats;
Monkey pox let loose by the WEF because it's the real killer;
Accelerating economic collapse at the precise time world markets started to stabilise and
At least four forecasts that the world was about to be thrown into nuclear armaggedon, including one from Golden Girl, Betty White from beyond the grave.

Gormlessness doesn't do the word justice, Morg!

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Last year, off the top of my head, you gave us:

Giant black-eyed transhuman babies about to appear in their hundreds of thousands;
HIV in Vaccines;
Putin a black-belt Mason because he wore a robe imprinted with lotus flowers;
Australians bombarded with radiation by police at demos;
£1300 Primark coats;
Monkey pox let loose by the WEF because it's the real killer;
Accelerating economic collapse at the precise time world markets started to stabilise and
At least four forecasts that the world was about to be thrown into nuclear armaggedon, including one from Golden Girl, Betty White from beyond the grave.

Gormlessness doesn't do the word justice, Morg!

And China attacking Taiwan and, the month after next, the magnetic pole switch.

But still he comes back for more. He must be a WUM merchant rather than being incredibly stupid.