Israel - worrying

[life on mars]

Re: Israel - worrying

Sadly softly softly doesn't work as most countries the area want them annihilated otmy words those of the leaders orthe likes of Iran .

So when someone continues to threaten you decade after decade you simply have to deliver zero tolerance..

Look no further then Ukraine who gave up thier nukes for peace .. and then a country takes Crimea , and no feck as a consequence they back for more.. that's what will happen If Israel weakens its stance.

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The new government is extremely worrying. Some out and out scumbags getting some important ministries. I sincerely hope this current vile coalition disintegrates very soon.




Although, surely that article would put the minds of its readers at ease. Because according to the author Israel has always been that bad, they're just being more honest about it now.

Far right fascists in government in one of the most volatile regions in the world

Jesus Christ

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Their Covid policies were very authoritarian but you would no doubt agree with that

When it comes to trying to control a worldwide pandemic which we initially knew very little about.....being authoritarian gets my vote

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Without wanting to open up a huge can of worms. Maybe it's because the vast majority of countries in the Arab world know that they have minorities or whole populations that are being subjugated and discriminated against to a far greater extent than the Palestinians. The levels of anti semitism endemic in that part of the world also make it quite hard for many to put forward a coherent arguement for why they dislike Israel, that doesn't just involve their hatred of Jews in general.


Still, despite in most ways being a big supporter of Israel I don't want to go down that route here because the current Israeli government is awful and fully deserving of any criticism directed towards it. Disappointed in the Biden administration aswell, I thought they'd try and crack down on the Israelis over settlement building. They don't seem to have exerted any pressure whatsoever.

Biden is hopeless

[chrisp_1927]

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Biden is hopeless

I'd agree , he appears to be trying the 'be as boring as possible and do as little as possible ' method. I understand in a way a desire to try and take a bit of the sting out of politics there. Do think he needs to do a bit more though, needs to actively try and detoxify things rather than just sitting back and hoping it all simmers down of its own accord.

To take it back to Israel. This hands off approach is also going to be hugely damaging to Israel in the long term aswell. There needs to be pressure on them now to rein in the lunatics. I've long stuck up for Israel as a vibrant democracy who should probably control their right wing loons a bit more. I don't think that's an argument that can be made in good faith now. There are now people in control who are out and out supremacists, who believe that palestinians are 2nd class citizens with no place in the country. It's a sad state of affairs, I sincerely hope this is rock bottom and that the next government will be more moderate and will be in charge soon. I don't have a huge amount of faith in that happening though.

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I'd agree , he appears to be trying the 'be as boring as possible and do as little as possible ' method. I understand in a way a desire to try and take a bit of the sting out of politics there. Do think he needs to do a bit more though, needs to actively try and detoxify things rather than just sitting back and hoping it all simmers down of its own accord.

To take it back to Israel. This hands off approach is also going to be hugely damaging to Israel in the long term aswell. There needs to be pressure on them now to rein in the lunatics. I've long stuck up for Israel as a vibrant democracy who should probably control their right wing loons a bit more. I don't think that's an argument that can be made in good faith now. There are now people in control who are out and out supremacists, who believe that palestinians are 2nd class citizens with no place in the country. It's a sad state of affairs, I sincerely hope this is rock bottom and that the next government will be more moderate and will be in charge soon. I don't have a huge amount of faith in that happening though.

My mate at college went over there for a year before he started studying

The saddest thing is that within Israel there are so many liberal , open minded people of Jewish, Arab and other nationalities

He worked in tel aviv and said back then it was a wonderful place to live and political extremists were shunned

I have no idea what it's like now

[TWGL1]

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Get out of here for Christ's sake with your conspiracy covid nonsense

Israel are going to be governed by right wing zionist crackpots

Give it a rest , you are the one who called for people with different opinions to you to be forced to do unpaid forced Labour.( I’ll put the thread back up if you like.) I cannot take you seriously with views like that.

WTF is a conspiracy questioning Israel’s totalitarian Covid policies ,if you think they were fine great, but I don’t.

[chrisp_1927]

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My mate at college went over there for a year before he started studying

The saddest thing is that within Israel there are so many liberal , open minded people of Jewish, Arab and other nationalities

He worked in tel aviv and said back then it was a wonderful place to live and political extremists were shunned

I have no idea what it's like now

Tel Aviv is still the same, one of my favourite places. Done a bit of diving down in Eilat aswell, very chilled place. Finally made it on a day trip to Jerusalem last year, very intense place. Although my poor directional sense didn't help in that regard, walked through some dodgy seeming neighbourhoods. The settlements and some of the stuff that goes on in the west bank is absolutely awful, a real stain on the country

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Give it a rest , you are the one who called for people with different opinions to you to be forced to do unpaid forced Labour.( I’ll put the thread back up if you like.) I cannot take you seriously with views like that.

WTF is a conspiracy questioning Israel’s totalitarian Covid policies ,if you think they were fine great, but I don’t.

You are crazy 🤪

Covid lunatic

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Tel Aviv is still the same, one of my favourite places. Done a bit of diving down in Eilat aswell, very chilled place. Finally made it on a day trip to Jerusalem last year, very intense place. Although my poor directional sense didn't help in that regard, walked through some dodgy seeming neighbourhoods. The settlements and some of the stuff that goes on in the west bank is absolutely awful, a real stain on the country

It's sad , there is never going to be an end to it all

It may settle , get worse or lessen

But it's never going to end

I remember seeing a documentary on a British born photographer of Jewish descent who was murdered by the Israeli tanks several years ago

It was murder but of course it wasn't in the record books as such

Terrible

[the other bob wilson]

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You are crazy ��

Covid lunatic

Yes, the I want to be free to do what I like and bugger the consequences for anyone else brigade tend to be on the right, as were the lot who approached the whole thing from a business rather than a human perspective during lock down, but, actually, the pandemic was an area where left and right politics was not too significant as policies tended to be broadly similar whatever type of Government was in office. In fact, it was the Swedish left of centre Government that was probably the most non interventionist in Europe, so I'm not sure what point he's trying to make, but his views on Covid are more in line with those on the right politically whether he likes it or not.

[TWGL1]

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You are crazy ��

Covid lunatic

As I say people like you are dangerous, especially when you were quite happy to think it was acceptable to force non vaccinated to undertake forced Labour against their will …. have a look through history where that has a happened previously. You’re inflammatory viewpoint is dangerous as well , you my friend cannot be taken seriously. Now if you want to carry on calling people “crazy” then have a think before you type ,similar to your other “scum” posts.

I wonder how you fit in on a normal day , sat in your PJ’s probably….

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Yes, the I want to be free to do what I like and bugger the consequences for anyone else brigade tend to be on the right, as were the lot who approached the whole thing from a business rather than a human perspective during lock down, but, actually, the pandemic was an area where left and right politics was not too significant as policies tended to be broadly similar whatever type of Government was in office. In fact, it was the Swedish left of centre Government that was probably the most non interventionist in Europe, so I'm not sure what point he's trying to make, but his views on Covid are more in line with those on the right politically whether he likes it or not.

Indeed it's so obvious I can't be bothered to argue

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As I say people like you are dangerous, especially when you were quite happy to think it was acceptable to force non vaccinated to undertake forced Labour against their will …. have a look through history where that has a happened previously. You’re inflammatory viewpoint is dangerous as well , you my friend cannot be taken seriously. Now if you want to carry on calling people “crazy” then have a think before you type ,similar to your other “scum” posts.

I wonder how you fit in on a normal day , sat in your PJ’s probably….

You are a lunatic

If you ever got covid you would be banging on the doors on your local hospital crying like a baby for medical care

You and your lot are completely nuts and should be shot

[TWGL1]

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You are a lunatic

If you ever got covid you would be banging on the doors on your local hospital crying like a baby for medical care

You and your lot are completely nuts and should be shot

Huh, I pay my taxes , had had Covid numerous times, was a mere cold, so has everyone I know , but perhaps we eat well excercise and practice good health.

You are an odd one , have another go you social comedian and are dangerous.

No point abusing people on line is there , you’re ruining the board. How many threads have you started that have been deleted now