Ng

[logic]

Re: Ng

To quote Cardiff City's website, the Player of the Season Award was "as chosen by the supporters".

Well, that shows TLG was wrong then. I was surprised, I'd have thought Kipre, O'Dowda or Kaba would be preferred.

It shows that fans do actually prefer a shithouse then. Can't remember who the last one we had before Ng would be? Chopra? Bellamy?

[MacAdder]

Re: Ng

The game of football has changed immeasurably over the last 20 years, most of it for the worst.

These people don't just go out there to play football any more, they are actors/entertainers (I use the latter loosely in our case).
The game is all about winning and players are conditioned to do all they can to get the better of their opponent, even if that means "cheating".

Since he came here, Ng has done well in difficult circumstances for whoever he has played for in whatever position he is asked to play.
Philogene has shown his class in the latter part of the campaign but Ng deserves man of the season.

[logic]

Re: Ng

The game of football has changed immeasurably over the last 20 years, most of it for the worst.

These people don't just go out there to play football any more, they are actors/entertainers (I use the latter loosely in our case).
The game is all about winning and players are conditioned to do all they can to get the better of their opponent, even if that means "cheating".

Since he came here, Ng has done well in difficult circumstances for whoever he has played for in whatever position he is asked to play.
Philogene has shown his class in the latter part of the campaign but Ng deserves man of the season.

I'd say Ng has been the most consistent player all season, not the best player.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Ng

I’d have given it to O’Dowda, but don’t have a problem with Ng winning it.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Ng

Hard to see how he could be any more popular - Last night he won Player of the Season, AND Player's player. Looks like he's pretty popular to me.

Maybe I'm wrong. But who actually votes for Player of the Year? Did you? I didn't. No idea how it's done these days.

I've spoken to plenty of people during the course of this season who are unimpressed with Ng's persistent play-acting and feigning injury. It gets mentioned on here by a number of people too. But maybe we're in small minority. I have no idea.

Plenty of people still idolise Warnock judging by yesterday's embarrassing reaction to a City defeat inside the ground. But that doesn't mean we all do by any means.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Ng

These people don't just go out there to play football any more, they are actors/entertainers (I use the latter loosely in our case). The game is all about winning and players are conditioned to do all they can to get the better of their opponent, even if that means "cheating".

I understand what you're saying, but the likes of Romeo, McGuinness, Kipre, Ralls, Wintle, etc, don't do what Ng does.

The way I see it is we cannot complain when opponents feign injury and attempt to get our players booked or sent off if we condone one of our own players doing just that. And the thing is, the evidence of this season would suggest that Ng and the team gain absolutely nothing from it. The opposite, in fact.

[logic]

Re: Ng

I understand what you're saying, but the likes of Romeo, McGuinness, Kipre, Ralls, Wintle, etc, don't do what Ng does.

The way I see it is we cannot complain when opponents feign injury and attempt to get our players booked or sent off if we condone one of our own players doing just that. And the thing is, the evidence of this season would suggest that Ng and the team gain absolutely nothing from it. The opposite, in fact.

Bellamy and Chopra did exactly the same with nobody condemning them.

Part of our issue this season is that we've been too nice.

[MacAdder]

Re: Ng

Plenty of people still idolise Warnock judging by yesterday's embarrassing reaction to a City defeat inside the ground. But that doesn't mean we all do by any means.

I doubt many of those who applauded Warnock "idolise" him.

I saw it as an appreciation of an ex-manager who wears his heart on his sleeve, someone who loves the game and everything that goes with it.

You'll enjoy this interview, plenty of the usual catchphrases and superlatives...

https://youtu.be/dMwqqJOyRjg

[Wash DC Blue]

Re: Ng

I would have gone for Kipre or O’Dowda.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Ng

I doubt many of those who applauded Warnock "idolise" him.

Were you there yesterday?

[Father Dougal]

Re: Ng

Maybe I'm wrong. But who actually votes for Player of the Year? Did you? I didn't. No idea how it's done these days.

I've spoken to plenty of people during the course of this season who are unimpressed with Ng's persistent play-acting and feigning injury. It gets mentioned on here by a number of people too. But maybe we're in small minority. I have no idea.

Plenty of people still idolise Warnock judging by yesterday's embarrassing reaction to a City defeat inside the ground. But that doesn't mean we all do by any means.

Unfortunately warnock has returned to us twice since leaving. Once for boro when mick had lost 9 in a row and was playing 5 centre backs. And yesterday when we played like that after a season like this.

Both times we have been very very very bad. Applause and chants for him as much to do with frustration at our situations I'd say. Had we kicked on since he left and his side were beaten 4 0 here it wouldn't be the same but we are a long way from that.

[MacAdder]

Re: Ng

End of the day, Ng is a shithouse, but he's our shithouse. Lose Ng, and our squad is full of nicey nicey guys. A squad that, if one of ours was hacked down, would go to the ref and say "I say, dear chap, that seems a bit nawty" whereas Ng would get stick in, try to start something then hack the offender down at the next oportunity.

:thumbup:
I wouldn't encourage such action but you'd hope someone would "leave something on them" in retribution and Ng is one of few in our side who would.

The definition of a "shithouse" player for me would be someone like Gary Madine.
Someone who bases his entire game around intimidation and aggression.

I wouldn't be surprised if THAT "tackle" on Ng at ours was followed by 'serves him right' shouts from our own :shrug:

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Ng

Applause and chants for him as much to do with frustration at our situations I'd say.

Well I don't know about you, but I never thought I'd see the day when hundreds if not thousands of Cardiff City fans were celebrating a City defeat with an opposition manager after a game. I don't care who he is, that was absolutely shocking and plenty of people seemed to feel the same as I was walking out of the ground. But maybe it's another indication of how passive City's fanbase has become in recent years.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Ng

I wouldn't be surprised if THAT "tackle" on Ng at ours was followed by 'serves him right' shouts from our own

THAT 'tackle' on Ng followed an incident in the first half where Ng had gone to ground clutching his face after a challenge with Madine where the latter had not connected with the former's face at all. The boy who cries wolf so frequently is his own worst enemy at times.

[logic]

Re: Ng

THAT 'tackle' on Ng followed an incident in the first half where Ng had gone to ground clutching his face after a challenge with Madine where the latter had not connected with the former's face at all. The boy who cries wolf so frequently is his own worst enemy at times.

Ngs action was after Madine went in on one of our players, with nothing being given. Swings and roundabouts