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[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Can Bulut turn
Harris into a goal scorer
Bagan into a consistently good full back
King into a real prospect
Colwill and Davies into players who make an effective contribution when picked
Sawyers from being error prone and lazy into a better player
The clock back for Ralls
The exit door handle for Ojo and Simpson.

That's quite a to-do list!

[Hilts]

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That's quite a to-do list!

If it was only that. !!!

He also has to find a keeper , get McGuinness and Ngs contracts extended , clear out as many of Morison's players as possible bringing in defenders midfielders and attackers under restricted conditions and a limited budget.

Also winning over ultra critical fans like DML.🤣

[The Lone Gunman]

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Harris appears to play better for Wales from what I’ve seen...

Harris has made a grand total of 5 appearances for Wales, all from the bench. His time on the pitch in a Welsh senior jersey totals just 133 minutes. He's never started a game for Wales, never scored a goal.

His last appearance for Wales came more than a year ago. He didn't play a single minute in the disastrous 2022 World Cup campaign, wasn't selected for the Euro qualifiers squad in March and hasn't been selected for the forthcoming qualifiers against Armenia and Turkey either.

In my opinion, some of the comments in this thread about Harris are nuts. The guy made 17 (+21) appearances for City last season, scoring just three goals. He scored his last goal at Sunderland on 05/11/22. He was a regular part of the most toothless attack the club has fielded in decades. And yet people think he's a decent squad player and worthy of another contract?

Harris works hard and tries his best, but there's just no evidence to suggest he's good enough for this level. If he was English or some other nationality, I'm 100% certain people wouldn't be so keen to keep him on.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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Harris has made a grand total of 5 appearances for Wales, all from the bench. His time on the pitch in a Welsh senior jersey totals just 133 minutes. He's never started a game for Wales, never scored a goal.

His last appearance for Wales came more than a year ago. He didn't play a single minute in the disastrous 2022 World Cup campaign, wasn't selected for the Euro qualifiers squad in March and hasn't been selected for the forthcoming qualifiers against Armenia and Turkey either.

In my opinion, some of the comments in this thread about Harris are nuts. The guy made 17 (+21) appearances for City last season, scoring just three goals. He scored his last goal at Sunderland on 05/11/22. He was a regular part of the most toothless attack the club has fielded in decades. And yet people think he's a decent squad player and worthy of another contract?

Harris works hard and tries his best, but there's just no evidence to suggest he's good enough for this level. If he was English or some other nationality, I'm 100% certain people wouldn't be so keen to keep him on.

Stop using facts to support your argument.

[Carl Dale's Mole]

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Can Bulut turn
Harris into a goal scorer
Bagan into a consistently good full back
King into a real prospect
Colwill and Davies into players who make an effective contribution when picked
Sawyers from being error prone and lazy into a better player
The clock back for Ralls
The exit door handle for Ojo and Simpson.

Bit harsh on Ralls that. Felt like his performances at the end of the season were a big part of why we survived. Proper captain stuff.

No one's turning Harris into a goal scorer. Not even Gandalf the Great. Can't fault his effort though.

Bagan's a weird one. Has looked immense at times and clueless other times.

I personally never saw the potential in King. I'm sure there's better in the academy. Joel Colwill to start.

Rubin needs his own strength and conditioning trainer or something. All that skill and technique but he's out there looking like Bambi on ice.

Isaak has the most potential for me. There's a reason Burnley were snooping around him. He's Bellamy lite. The youngsters aren't entitled to anything though so hopefully he hits the ground running this season.

Sawyers won't make a single appearance under Bulut.

[TWGL1]

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Harris has made a grand total of 5 appearances for Wales, all from the bench. His time on the pitch in a Welsh senior jersey totals just 133 minutes. He's never started a game for Wales, never scored a goal.

His last appearance for Wales came more than a year ago. He didn't play a single minute in the disastrous 2022 World Cup campaign, wasn't selected for the Euro qualifiers squad in March and hasn't been selected for the forthcoming qualifiers against Armenia and Turkey either.

In my opinion, some of the comments in this thread about Harris are nuts. The guy made 17 (+21) appearances for City last season, scoring just three goals. He scored his last goal at Sunderland on 05/11/22. He was a regular part of the most toothless attack the club has fielded in decades. And yet people think he's a decent squad player and worthy of another contract?

Harris works hard and tries his best, but there's just no evidence to suggest he's good enough for this level. If he was English or some other nationality, I'm 100% certain people wouldn't be so keen to keep him on.

Good statistics, and hard to argue against those , but all being said , I’ll give him one last roll of the dice this season , providing he stays. He might go if another club offers him a more lucrative contract. (Blackburn wanted him but wouldn’t meet our £700,000 valuation apparently)

I prefer him over Watters, but I don’t mind him either.

[Tuerto]

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Harris has made a grand total of 5 appearances for Wales, all from the bench. His time on the pitch in a Welsh senior jersey totals just 133 minutes. He's never started a game for Wales, never scored a goal.

His last appearance for Wales came more than a year ago. He didn't play a single minute in the disastrous 2022 World Cup campaign, wasn't selected for the Euro qualifiers squad in March and hasn't been selected for the forthcoming qualifiers against Armenia and Turkey either.

In my opinion, some of the comments in this thread about Harris are nuts. The guy made 17 (+21) appearances for City last season, scoring just three goals. He scored his last goal at Sunderland on 05/11/22. He was a regular part of the most toothless attack the club has fielded in decades. And yet people think he's a decent squad player and worthy of another contract?

Harris works hard and tries his best, but there's just no evidence to suggest he's good enough for this level. If he was English or some other nationality, I'm 100% certain people wouldn't be so keen to keep him on.

:thumbup: good post is that.

[TWGL1]

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:thumbup: good post is that.

A change in manager , tactics, might kickstart his career.

Viktor Gyökeres was pretty average up until last season (just gone ) and now he is valued at €12m ( not that I’m comparing Harris with him :hehe:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Gyökeres

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Harris 700 k ?

Never in a million years

I think he's a league one utility forward at best

[BLUEAWAY]

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Bit harsh on Ralls that. Felt like his performances at the end of the season were a big part of why we survived. Proper captain stuff.

No one's turning Harris into a goal scorer. Not even Gandalf the Great. Can't fault his effort though.

Bagan's a weird one. Has looked immense at times and clueless other times.

I personally never saw the potential in King. I'm sure there's better in the academy. Joel Colwill to start.

Rubin needs his own strength and conditioning trainer or something. All that skill and technique but he's out there looking like Bambi on ice.

Isaak has the most potential for me. There's a reason Burnley were snooping around him. He's Bellamy lite. The youngsters aren't entitled to anything though so hopefully he hits the ground running this season.

Sawyers won't make a single appearance under Bulut.

It is undeniable that Ralls is getting older and my comment related to his age.
However, despite having a good end of season his overall season was patchy.
Every player has to deliver every time they play. In too many matches he didn’t.
Deciding his best position would help!

[Tuerto]

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A change in manager , tactics, might kickstart his career.

Viktor Gyökeres was pretty average up until last season (just gone ) and now he is valued at €12m ( not that I’m comparing Harris with him :hehe:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Gyökeres

I hope that you're right and Harris does become a decent enough operator at this level. I just can't see it happening, he needs to show something else that gives him a bit of an edge when needed, especially given his position. You've just named Gyokeres, i'll take your word on that because i don't pay that much attention or watch enough games to have knowledge of other players, but how often do we see dramatic changes in players who are average and limited, and see then turn into something more creative and clinical? It's certainly a rare occurrence.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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It is undeniable that Ralls is getting older and my comment related to his age.
However, despite having a good end of season his overall season was patchy.
Every player has to deliver every time they play. In too many matches he didn’t.
Deciding his best position would help!

As he's slowing down a defensive midfielder in front of the back foot

He used to chip in with goals from midfield but now his position is further back

[blue matt]

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Harris has made a grand total of 5 appearances for Wales, all from the bench. His time on the pitch in a Welsh senior jersey totals just 133 minutes. He's never started a game for Wales, never scored a goal.

His last appearance for Wales came more than a year ago. He didn't play a single minute in the disastrous 2022 World Cup campaign, wasn't selected for the Euro qualifiers squad in March and hasn't been selected for the forthcoming qualifiers against Armenia and Turkey either.

In my opinion, some of the comments in this thread about Harris are nuts. The guy made 17 (+21) appearances for City last season, scoring just three goals. He scored his last goal at Sunderland on 05/11/22. He was a regular part of the most toothless attack the club has fielded in decades. And yet people think he's a decent squad player and worthy of another contract?

Harris works hard and tries his best, but there's just no evidence to suggest he's good enough for this level. If he was English or some other nationality, I'm 100% certain people wouldn't be so keen to keep him on.

While that might all be true, he is a 100%'er and that's contagious on the training field and pitch , we know he is not going to be a 20 goal a season player at this level, but when we are where we are, he must be a good option to bring on when a goal up to see the game out

[Tuerto]

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While that might all be true, he is a 100%'er and that's contagious on the training field and pitch , we know he is not going to be a 20 goal a season player at this level, but when we are where we are, he must be a good option to bring on when a goal up to see the game out

I'd say that he's an option, not a particularly good one though. As for being a '100% er' well i'd say most of them are, they just show it in different ways, not everyone can chase down and run along the back line, and thank god for that, and giving 100% is sort of a requisite for a footballer, i don't think that it raises the effort rates in training, if so, then we're in bigger trouble than i thought.

[Wash DC Blue]

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in fairness Cohen Griffith would have been out of his depth at this level too

I was thinking about Cohen the other day, wondering if he’d be better than Ojo.