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[Nobody's Rep]

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Harris has made a grand total of 5 appearances for Wales, all from the bench. His time on the pitch in a Welsh senior jersey totals just 133 minutes. He's never started a game for Wales, never scored a goal.

His last appearance for Wales came more than a year ago. He didn't play a single minute in the disastrous 2022 World Cup campaign, wasn't selected for the Euro qualifiers squad in March and hasn't been selected for the forthcoming qualifiers against Armenia and Turkey either.

In my opinion, some of the comments in this thread about Harris are nuts. The guy made 17 (+21) appearances for City last season, scoring just three goals. He scored his last goal at Sunderland on 05/11/22. He was a regular part of the most toothless attack the club has fielded in decades. And yet people think he's a decent squad player and worthy of another contract?

Harris works hard and tries his best, but there's just no evidence to suggest he's good enough for this level. If he was English or some other nationality, I'm 100% certain people wouldn't be so keen to keep him on.

But apart from that what has Harris done for us??

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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I played tennis against Cohen Griffith once.
No relevance to the debate, just thought I'd mention it.

[Nobody's Rep]

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I played tennis against Cohen Griffith once.
No relevance to the debate, just thought I'd mention it.

I played cricket against a len Ashurst select 11 including Gary Bennett and he was rapid in fairness

[The Lone Gunman]

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While that might all be true, he is a 100%'er and that's contagious on the training field and pitch , we know he is not going to be a 20 goal a season player at this level, but when we are where we are, he must be a good option to bring on when a goal up to see the game out

Three goals, zero assists last season. Dynamite bench option. It must really strike fear into opponents’ hearts when they see him warming up.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I played tennis against Cohen Griffith once.
No relevance to the debate, just thought I'd mention it.

I played cricket against Steve Sherlock

I battered him all over the ground

[BLUETIT]

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I played cricket against Steve Sherlock

I battered him all over the ground

Fishy

[Vindec]

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I'm surprised Watters isn't mentioned as someone who needs to improve. In the recent playoffs he was as anonymous as he is for us.

[D. Advocaat]

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:thumbup: good post is that.

Agreed. Unfortunately the facts speak for themselves- if Mark Harris is anything more than an emergency back up part of our forward line, a season of dull endeavour at the wrong end of the table looms

[Hilts]

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I'm surprised Watters isn't mentioned as someone who needs to improve. In the recent playoffs he was as anonymous as he is for us.

I think its just accepted hes got no future with us and needs to go.

[Hilts]

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Agreed. Unfortunately the facts speak for themselves- if Mark Harris is anything more than an emergency back up part of our forward line, a season of dull endeavour at the wrong end of the table looms

Its going to be a fight at the wrong end of the table with or without Harris.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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Agreed. Unfortunately the facts speak for themselves- if Mark Harris is anything more than an emergency back up part of our forward line, a season of dull endeavour at the wrong end of the table looms

Harris has no real football brain. That sounds harsh to say, but it's true.
He lacks cleverness, to sometimes do the unorthodox.
I watched snippets of Lee Trundle playing recently in the US. Yes, it was against women, but when he received the ball you never knew what to expect from him next - Harris, on the other hand just seems to put a lot of endeavour just running straight lines.

[xsnaggle]

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I ran into Gareth Bale on Thursday evening in Heathrow terminal 5. I don't care what the ref says there's no way it was a yellow

[the other bob wilson]

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Harris has no real football brain. That sounds harsh to say, but it's true.
He lacks cleverness, to sometimes do the unorthodox.
I watched snippets of Lee Trundle playing recently in the US. Yes, it was against women, but when he received the ball you never knew what to expect from him next - Harris, on the other hand just seems to put a lot of endeavour just running straight lines.

Harris is, understandably, being criticised for his lack of goals - nine in eighty seven second tier appearances isn’t good for a forward, but Trundle’s thirteen in eighty three isn’t much better.He was a very good lower division player, but found the step up to the Championship difficult - Harris has already played more games at this level than he did.

Trundle was easier on the eye than Harris is, but all of his skill didn’t add up to much at the higher level - Harris wouldn’t need to improve much to become a better Championship player than Trundle was.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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Harris is, understandably, being criticised for his lack of goals - nine in eighty seven second tier appearances isn’t good for a forward, but Trundle’s thirteen in eighty three isn’t much better.He was a very good lower division player, but found the step up to the Championship difficult - Harris has already played more games at this level than he did.

Trundle was easier on the eye than Harris is, but all of his skill didn’t add up to much at the higher level - Harris wouldn’t need to improve much to become a better Championship player than Trundle was.

Okay, perhaps I shouldn't have used Lee Trundle as a comparison. :hehe:
Nevertheless, I stand by what I said about Harris - he's too predictable.

[Michael Morris]

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I played cricket against Steve Sherlock

I battered him all over the ground

No shit